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[Q=chrisj87] OK, I'll grant you that saturation is somewhat of an issue, but not the way that you think, so read on...the problem is that there is saturation of units that break these "rules" of timeshare. If anyone has a problem exchanging their unit, they have "violated" one of these rules. I have a true three bedroom in orlando, 5 star and have no problem trading( last five years: hawaii, italy, vegas, hawaii again, puerto vallarta, booked this year for Kenya and Vegas). I also have a two bedroom and I have an awful time exchanging it, but I own during speed weeks in daytona(that was fortunate)... No one, who has a large group with them, wants to stay in a two bedroom lock-off (or lock out, however you'd like to say it), which sleeps six or eight uncomfortably, because of a pullout couch, rather, they would prefer a unit that has the beds to match the heads, hence more private sleeping area. Since 2001 this trend has become more prevalent, because families and groups of people tend to travel together. How does that translate to your ownership position? Well, think about what you have and where you want to go... You need a bargaining chip and no matter what anyone tells you, you need a big chip. Even if you're like me and travel with two people, it is in your best interest to have a larger unit, even if you are going into a smaller unit on vacation. You just have more trading power. To put it simply, 2 br lockoffs are bad, one bedrooms are awful, studios are even worse. There is a flood of these units in orlando and no one who does their homework wants to own them, no one wants to stay in them. Unfortunately, they are worthless. Since the inception of timeshare in the Orlando area, the big companies were too stupid to think out of the box, so they went with the building trend, more recently like vistana villages, marriott, and others, they built more lock-offs. They ignored the owners needs and lined their pockets. Unfortunately, people allowed and are allowing themselves to be duped into buying these units. When I puchased my second ownership in 1999, I learned from my purchasing mistakes of 1986. To look at the exchanging trends, go to the ARDA website, go to the Orange County Convention and visitors bureau, the Las vegas convention and vistors authority, the state of hawaii to look at the trends. Look, I can make a general blanket statement, but I won't because I live and work in the vacation industry every day. It was my fault to try to put things in laymens terms. It is my job to study the trends and the facts are: There is an incredible need for more, larger timeshare units in the greater Orlando area. The problem is that the mouse house has 43 square miles and companies are looking for places to build. For example, one company, Consolidated resorts, has moved part of their operation to the Orlando area and in order to set the trend, they are currently selling three and four bedroom, purpose built units, six miles from Mickey's place (no lock-offs). Their projected sell out date is mid 2008. I live in the Orlando aerea because of these statistics, I own timeshare in the Olrando area for the same reason, but you'll never see me stay in my unit! Your conclusions about Orlando is pure heresay, so here are the stats: Demand for units larger than two bedrooms increased over the last two years by 38%. Timeshare occupancy was up 18.8% in Orlando last year, but occupancy in hotels was down... To recover from the boon of timeshare occupancy, companies are forecasting an increase of purpose built units by 15.6% in 2007 and 2008. The fact is that as Orlando metro grows and as mickey grows, demand will continue to grow. There is no saturation of quality, functional units for the 15 year trend. Non-functional resorts such as Magic tree, fantasy world, Celebrity resorts spas (poinciana), and Grand Lake, are problematic, so you can always get into these resorts, because no one would send their enemies to these places... The conclusion that hawaii has more trading power is completely wrong: When you stated that hawaii was popular what did you mean by "popular"? You see, there are three TYPES of "popular resort areas", so which one of those did you mean? You still have to look at the demand factors and the timing trends. If your "common sense" approach worked everywhere, the resort area that has the highest demand would be in Cape Cod, but alas it is not, even though it is a popular resort area and has only a few resorts. The facts are that Hawaii has a good tourism rate, tourism projection increases are small, but demand for timeshare use is still high, although not as high as 6 other locations throughout the USA and Europe. Passenger traffic in hawaii has actually increased from asia, which is good, but the huge majority of those folks stay in hotels. It has become increasingly more expensive for American families to travel to hawaii (with regard to a family of four to include, airfare, rental car, meals, lodging, attractions and tours). The average american family stays in the lower 48 and the trend now is to drive or fly on a discount airline to get to their destination. Typically folks living outside of the US are only a small percentage of the travelers to US destintions for holidays... OK, so lets recap: -There is saturation only in units with no demand in Orlando and those units are: 2's, 1's and studios. -The demand for useable timeshare increased in Orlando and will exponentially over the next 15 years. -If you have a problem exchanging, you have broken one of the "rules". -No matter what you own, it's yours, so enjoy it to your fullest. -The larger vacation companies, until recently, have ignored your needs. -Hawaii is not the highest in demand for exchanges, neither is vegas, cape cod, wisconsin dells or french lick. -No matter where you own, you need more private sleeping areas. -Smaller lock-off units are just gimmicks to get you to buy, especially biennial ownership. -3 and 4 bedroom units (whether purpose built or lock-off) are more advantageous for an owner.[/Q] ================================ what about these two bedroom deluxe that they have like at star island two bedroom with a third small room it is a five star resort do you think this will give me better exchange then vistana villages.