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Haha BJ your so full of it. Stop writing long post like this your only making yourself look guilty and taking up room for the real comments. It's only a matter of time before u come down in a ball of flames. You can only change your company name so many times!!!
David J.
Last edited by phyl21 on Nov 16, 2012 12:27 PM
fs40 wrote:I purchased in July 2011 and was told I'd be paid in 3 months. After 6 I tried to get my money back from CC and they said that I couldn't because the "prl" joke of a contract was air tight. Then I complained that I didn't have my deed yet. When I disputed my card they did it as failure to deliver merchandise. What the credit card purchase is actually for is a deed. The paperwork said I'd have it after 120 days. I got every penny back. I'm glad I kept my vsi membership though. We've been using the heck out of that. We always deal with a lady named Jessica and a guy named Josh. They are great. The actual resort is a little rough though. I'm just glad I had good grounds to dispute. I though you only had 6 months to do so but mine was almost 8 months. Situations like this get extended. I got every dollar back.
How does the disputing thing work? My attorney said that the PRL is covered in the paperwork and trying to get anything from a dissolved LLC out of nevada is like getting blood out of a turnip. The dispute against my purchase with Sunset Harbor not producing a deed yet and them working with PRL for so long should be an easy one. He told me to do that but I don't know how. I wanted to ask you all before I had another $100 phone call with my attorney. Sounds like I have 1 year. Any help?
Linda G.
lindag650
If you paid for this timeshare with a credit card, you can dispute the purchase charge through your "card member services department" with your credit card company. There should be a phone number on your credit card statement to call. Let them know you are disputing this charge for the same reason fs40 used... "failure to deliver merchandise". You never received a deed and it was a deeded timeshare you were purchasing.
They will let you know what you need to do. Usually the credit card company may request you send a letter or fill out a report sending along copies of your contract. Make sure you highlight the parts in the contract about the purchase price for deeded property, and the 120 days to finalize this purchase transaction. They may also want a copy of your credit card billing statement. If you have any other pertinent information, e-mails, or letters from the timeshare resort or PRL that mentions their reasons or excuses for any delays on fullfilling their contract with providing you a deed to this property...that will help also. Since they haven't fullfilled the contract within the time allocated on the contract, you are requesting a full refund of this purchase. You may also want to add some language about how you feel you have been scammed by this timeshare resort and PRL and go into some details as to why. Keep to the facts, don't get too long winded in this letter.
The credit card company will reach out to PRL and this Timeshare resort and let them know you want you money back, they have to prove to the credit card company they followed the contract...which they can't, if they didn't provide a deed to this property within 120 days. If the credit card company sides with you, they will take their payment back from them and credit your account.
Good luck....hope you get some results with your credit card company.
Ellen W.
No I am not an employee just a member through purchase. Your negative post and the fact you state it's a scam with no proof is a moot point. Any logical person can read the hate you have so you must have been fired by them additionally, you sold for two years stating it was a scam how do I know your not a scam? It works for me that is all I know.
James J.
You have to be joking james406. Have you noticed the other remarks or is it that you just do not understand them. Let me help you - AMAZING everyone has had the same complaints and frustration. That is - late getting the deed- no return phone calls- can't get a straight answer-bounced from regional office to BJ and back-promissed thiks would happen then never do-straight out lied to when we did get an answer - paper work that showed he was the only officer of PRL even though he stated there were others-and now PRL has closed with out any warning or notice leaving everyone else that had money invested holding the bag. And you think this is acceptable and a trust worthy company that you have no problem defending ??? The more I think about your statement lets me know how you treat other people. You are a sad excuse for a person as BJ is.
James V.
James;
I bought in December of 2010. I have pages of note related to the many times I called them and they had "yet another reason" as to why I couldn't get paid.
I was promised, again, a check would be cut October 14th. I call Grand Leisure Holidays on the 14th of November to ask where my check was and they informed me that PRL had been liquidated and there was no one I could talk to.
The money they got selling me a time share was probably what they used to pay your check.
Be happy you were paid. Unfortunately, many of us appear to have been scammed.
Sakshale E.
jamesv145 wrote:You have to be joking james406. Have you noticed the other remarks or is it that you just do not understand them. Let me help you - AMAZING everyone has had the same complaints and frustration. That is - late getting the deed- no return phone calls- can't get a straight answer-bounced from regional office to BJ and back-promissed thiks would happen then never do-straight out lied to when we did get an answer - paper work that showed he was the only officer of PRL even though he stated there were others-and now PRL has closed with out any warning or notice leaving everyone else that had money invested holding the bag. And you think this is acceptable and a trust worthy company that you have no problem defending ??? The more I think about your statement lets me know how you treat other people. You are a sad excuse for a person as BJ is.
My understanding is that is was working well and then it hit a wall. There were several clients that got paid between May and July and then it just stopped. There were guys like that DonaldC that was supposed to get two payments of $5k and he only got one. I believe it because the same guy posted a month before his payout how big of a ripoff it was then he posted he recieved one payment. No matter what the excuse PRL or JB cook gives for the reason isn't good enough. They can blame who they want but it's their responsibility. I've been hawking this forum for a long time and tracking progress and I'm disheartened. I did go onto that website the prl phone line suggested and listed my weeks. We'll see how that goes. I disputed my discover from August so I'm hoping something comes from that. I'd love the roller coaster ride to be over.
Thomas Y.
How can they have joy in this life. Those type of people would be the first and loudest to complain if the go screwed. It seems like someone , not mentioning any names ( BJ ) has been deleting messages. It maybe the word jail that bothered him.
James V.
Last edited by jamesv145 on Nov 17, 2012 01:00 PM
PRL was a scam from the beginning. It was designed to do just one thing .... take peoples money and then go out of business. I will guarantee that they are forming a new company right now. Why would they sell to other people if the points were worth so much money. They would have just cashed in themselves. The scam works just like the housing market did in 2008. People were rushing to get in on a deal that was " too good to be true ". They prey on people who think they can beat the system. Just look at the trail of victims they left behind.
Don P.
Last edited by donp196 on Nov 17, 2012 03:27 PM
Well, I don't think my parents were "trying to beat the system" they just fell for the scam that their "weeks" timeshare was soon going to be useless and they had to do this deal to be able to convert their timeshare from "weeks" to "points". They had agreed to pay $1080, but $9500 was charged to their credit card accounts.
Tina K.
As I have stated before ,I beleive SSH is part of the scam . First- with the amount of complaints going in to the regional office office you would think they would tell the owners and they would have fired PRL ,second - I was told the owners were flying into TX to meet with the staff . What will the staff be able to do about the situation. I feel it is just another planned set back and to make it look like the owners are concerned.
James V.
I'm not saying your parents in particular were trying to beat the system but some people in here have stated that they were told that they could make big money renting their points and that they got in because of the profits they expected. That is the worst reason to sucked into a scheme over. Like I said if there was big money to be made by renting out points why would they let outsiders in. They would just reap the profits themselves. It's just common sense.
Don P.
You sound like hostess Twinkies people. Like the little kids that it didn't go your way so you want to take your ball and go home.
Same question if its such a scam why did you work there 2 years and why does a respected bank finance them. My experience in finance, banks especially BofA who finances the larget timeshare Wyndham Vacation Resorts and Marriott would not finance a scam as you put it.
I think you are one of three people. A former sales person who was fired, a person who works for the resort in question or perhaps both.
James J.
Tony, this is what a client sent me on Tuesday after trying to call PRL and I have been trying to reach someone to get more info... "Due to several unforeseeable circumstances Point Rental Liquidators had no choice but to dissolve as an entity on Thursday, November 8th. To do the best we can by our clients, we contacted vacationtimesharerentals.com who is the largest and most reputable timeshare rental company in the business and has been explained that PRL had shut down. We let them know that we are referring all of our existing clients to them. They offer a free listing service as well as an option to make it a featured listing that you can pay a membership fee or set up the featured listing but on a commission structure with no upfront money. You list it on their site yourself and it provides a number to call if you need help... This company is not an affiliate of PRL in anyway so they are not going to want to hear about the past but move forward with what they can do for you... Sorry for the inconvenience..." That is as much info I know right now Tony and wish I could tell you more. At this point I would give VSI (855-VSI-TRVL ext7) and see what they reccomend as far as banking with them or RCI/II. Tony I wouldn't have expected this to happen, as it was my understanding that PRL was doing great. I and the representative working with me were assured that everything was great and wouldn't have shown the product otherwise. The whole "sorry for the inconvenience" line at the end has me livid. As I get more info I will forward it to you. Neil Y.
karenw608 wrote:I have signed a contract to purchase a new timeshare on the point system called sunset harbor resort in willis, texas. Point rental liquidators rep says they will convert my current week owned in SC plus this new purcase in TX to points and that money will pay for the new resort, all maintenance fees and I receive a check for the remaining monies left over. IS THIS A SCAM. I have until tomorrow evening to cancel this agreement. Please help me save myself if this is a scam!
Tony M.
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