Getting rid of a time share.

I appreciate your apology. Like I said, not all companies that acquire timeshares are scams. You are right in saying I don't care what Timesharesbegone.llc did with my timeshare. It no longer concerns me. It belongs to them. I do know I no longer have to pay any fees to Wyndham. The resorts will charge more and higher maintenance fees whenever they get ready. They don't need an excuse to do it. I certainly feel no guilt whatsoever for getting rid of my timeshare. I am thankful.

If they (Timesharesbegone) had not done what they said, Visa would have refunded my money. I did not pay them until AFTER the deed was transferred to them. They didn't charge me any money "up front". I had nothing to lose and gained the advantage of ridding my family of a burden (timeshare) we no longer wanted.

colvind wrote:

I appreciate your apology. Like I said, not all companies that acquire timeshares are scams. You are right in saying I don't care what Timesharesbegone.llc did with my timeshare. It no longer concerns me. It belongs to them. I do know I no longer have to pay any fees to Wyndham. The resorts will charge more and higher maintenance fees whenever they get ready. They don't need an excuse to do it. I certainly feel no guilt whatsoever for getting rid of my timeshare. I am thankful.

If they (Timesharesbegone) had not done what they said, Visa would have refunded my money. I did not pay them until AFTER the deed was transferred to them. They didn't charge me any money "up front". I had nothing to lose and gained the advantage of ridding my family of a burden (timeshare) we no longer wanted.

I certainly didn't read anyone "apologize" to you, but I will jump in here to reply to the above with some relevant observations and questions regarding the veracity of your claimed success.

1. Why don't you justy openly POST the deed information for anyone to easily look up online for themselves if they are interested in verifying your story? You've previously offered to "send out a copy" No need to do that --- just provide the FACTS. Specifically...

State, county, book & page ( and / or instrument number) is all that would be required for ANYONE to independently confirm your story from recorded documents available for ANYONE to see in official PUBLIC records.

2. Credit card issuers generally allow only 30 (60 max) days to dispute a credit card charge. Few (if any) timeshare closings can EVER be completed within that brief time frame, so your above stated logic about VISA is both weak and questionable, at best.

No offense intended, but I personally find your story a bit hard to believe. However, you could easily eradicate all doubt and establish (currently absent) credibility by just providing some actual FACTS --- which can then be easily checked and easily verified by virtually ANYONE who might be interested in confirming your "story".

With due respect, absent some pertinent and verifiable FACTS to confirm, that's all your above story is --- a STORY; one told without providing any means to actually verify its' authenticity or accuracy.

Ken, As I read some of your back posts, you are good are getting folks to be real and to present factual and useful information. And maybe I've missed it, but has anyone EVER been able to get out of their timeshares? Can't just one of the companies that are springing up everywhere be legit?

We own 5 timeshares (purchased in the 1990's) of which we'd like to get rid 2 or 3 of them. We actually owned a 6th bought in 2009 (yeah I know STUPID) that we were able to give back to them in 2010 later. I've tried to do the same with the others, but of course no company is going to do that.

Thanks for your insight!

It REALLY Cracks me Up when I see some of the prices people are asking for timeshares here. Apparently they never bothered looking at what other people were asking, and Not Getting, that are a FRACTION of their asking price! Well, R.W. will at least get some money out of the deal...

Heck, maybe I'll throw some on here a FULL RETAIL for the fun of it. Maybe somebody will pay it to me!? LOL... They Will NEVER see the price they paid for it from the Developer or Timeshare Company, except maybe with inflation in about 30-50 years!

don603 wrote:

Ken, As I read some of your back posts, you are good are getting folks to be real and to present factual and useful information. And maybe I've missed it, but has anyone EVER been able to get out of their timeshares? Can't just one of the companies that are springing up everywhere be legit?

We own 5 timeshares (purchased in the 1990's) of which we'd like to get rid 2 or 3 of them. We actually owned a 6th bought in 2009 (yeah I know STUPID) that we were able to give back to them in 2010 later. I've tried to do the same with the others, but of course no company is going to do that.

Thanks for your insight!

Thanks for your kind words.

Hope springs eternal, but the simple fact of the matter is that NO entity which charges an upfront fee is likely ever going to prove to be legitimate. NONE. While "Donate for a Cause" (DFC) may be "legitimate", for a low value timeshare the DFC "donation" costs are actually every bit as much as any upfront fee company or PCC (PostCard Company) charges. For people with multiple weeks to part with, it is not generally even a viable option to consider PAYING several thousand dollars PER WEEK just to get rid of them.

There is no way to "make a silk purse from a sow's ear". If a timeshare has no current market value, you may well have to advertise offers to GIVE it away (for free). You can advertise such offers as a "Bargain Deal" on RedWeek. You can place an "auction" ad / listing (for free) on Bidshares (free ads on Craigslist too, but Craigslist is unfortunately the current scammer capital of Planet Earth). You may even have to offer to pay all of the closing costs yourself in order to make a "free" offer more attractive. Even then, paying three hundred dollars in closing costs is a whole lot better than paying three THOUSAND dollars to DFC (...or to some shaky, questionable PCC which might take your money now and then disappear entirely two months from now).

I wish I had better words of encouragement or wisdom to offer, but the cold, hard facts are simply the cold, hard facts.

Again, the truth you speak.... You did present a good idea that we're going to use-offer to pay any closing costs. We'll see what happens. Thanks.

Facts about my deed transfer to Timesharesbegone.llc. BK/PG: 1351/2384-2384(on record at Cumberland Co. register office) Instrument number 100131123 It was transferred in Crossville Tn. on 11/18/2010. at 10:33 am from Colvin and Debbie Deaton. It had been recorded in plat book 8 pg.125 to us by Sterling Forest. It took the company one week to transfer my deed. They faxed a copy to the home owners assoc. at Fairfield Glade the same day. It did take them(hoa) about 4 weeks to acknowledge receipt of transfer. They will not give the fax number out to the home office in Orlando. Their(home office) notification could have been done on same day if they would give the number out.

Judy Graham Swallows is the Register of Deeds in Cumberland Co. Tn. Her phone number is 931-484-5559. She is one of the most helpful people you will ever talk to. She will be glad to verify the transfer of my property. I am so thankful not to have to be burdened by my timeshare anymore. NO MORE FEES TO WYNDHAM!!

read what I posted about getting out of my timeshare. It was easy.

colvind wrote:

read what I posted about getting out of my timeshare. It was easy.

How much did you have to pay them?

$985.00.

It is nice to hear a sucess story for a change. I went through a nite-mare story with Westgate Spa Resorts at 10000 Turkey lake road. These scallywags led me down a garden path and robbed me of 4000.00 as far as I am concerned. Finally; after being taken down another garden path to sell; (scammed); I finally just walked away from it all. NO regrets!

Somebody has to pay the title transfer fees and other costs associated with dumping a timeshare. Any of the organizations looking to help you get rid of the timeshare you no longer want are not going to pay those fees - especially a charitable organization. Ultimately, the costs involved will far exceed any winning bid from E-Bay. It's nearly impossible to find a potential buyer who is willing to pay the transfer fees either! You're typically talking about 4 figures to complete the property transfer! Unless your TS property is VERY desirable, good luck getting rid of it.

I was one of the fortunate ones to get money back after credit card dispute. I discovered that the credit card company was very helpful and I actually had almost a year to work out the situation because of the duration of the contract with the timeshare scams. As always I will say never pay anything up front. If the scam co is making money off of the interest ( they often say that) then just send me completed documents and I will have a title co here look it over. That's what I tell them now and surprise no one has sent me ready to go docs.

Colvin,

There is a dearth of information about Timesharesbegone.LLC on the internet. I did Google/Bing searches and found only the street address and a phone number. How did you learn about the company? Did you do any due diligence concerning the company?

Do you know whether Wyndham changed their records to remove you as the owner?

If the new owner is a "shell" LLC whose principals have no intention of paying future maintenance fees there is a possibility that Wyndam will bring suit to have the transfer set aside on the basis of fraud.

Did you offer Wyndam a deed in lieu of foreclosure prior to dealing with Timesharesbegone? If Wyndam is so willing to transfer ownership to a Limited Liability Corporation they probably would have taken your deed for -0- dollars and saved you almost a $1,000 dollars.

You will know for sure the next time the maintenance fees are due. At that time you will know the truth and truly be set free of future maintenance fees or be out $985.

I personally don't need their services but if all works out well for you, I am sure there are many out there who would be willing to pay $985 to Timesharesbegone to be free of their timeshare. Keep up posted. Personally, I have my doubts that this will end well but time will tell.

Best of luck!

I can find no website titled Timesharesbegone.llc. or anything titled timesharesbegone.

Do a google search on timesharesbegone and you will find the llc, which is in Alvaton, Kentucky (no phone number, web site, etc.) If you check domain registrations you will find that the names timesharesbegone.com timesharesbegone.info are both taken, but have moved around from host to host a lot and cannot be accessed directly at the present time. I would guess that this particular scam has been take "off-line" at least for the present time.

gerrymanning wrote:

Do a google search on timesharesbegone and you will find the llc, which is in Alvaton, Kentucky (no phone number, web site, etc.) If you check domain registrations you will find that the names timesharesbegone.com timesharesbegone.info are both taken, but have moved around from host to host a lot and cannot be accessed directly at the present time. I would guess that this particular scam has been take "off-line" at least for the present time.

Ultimately, this alleged "transfer to a mystery llc" may never be acknowledged or accepted by the resort. Moreover, the transfer deed itself, if challenged in court, could later be determined to be invalid and void if this mystery LLC was created solely for the purpose of defrauding facilities by creating a phony dumping ground for unwanted timeshares. In short, "colvin" should not consider this matter "closed". It may very well resurface later and he could very well later be determined to STILL be the lawful owner of record --- with $985 less in his bank account, and maintenance fees unpaid and accruing late fees and interest. We shall see...

I am so thankful I live in the USA. I am guaranteed the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. People can still sell things that they no longer have any desire to own. No government organization or entity can force you to (keep the property). I am free from my timeshare. Period. People transfer timeshares EVERYDAY. There are companies that form to buy and sell them. They get licensed from states to do business, pay taxes and fees, and operate.

The idea I can be held responsible for Timesharesbegone.llc is ludicrous. If I sell my car today and legally transfer it to another person, and that person uses it to rob a bank, do you think the police would arrest me? That is the same argument you made about my being liable for the timeshare.

If you don't want to own a timeshare, there are companies that buy them. One company out of California boast they have acquired 40,000 of them. They charge really high fees. If someone wants to do business with them, they can. It is no business of mine. I do know of 40,000 people that would no longer be responsible for a timeshare. To suggest that the resort "might not accept the transfer" is ridiculous. The county court clerks TRANSFER THE PROPERTY.

You can see where I posted the info on the transfer of my timeshare. Wyndham sent the maintenance fee to Timesharesbegone.llc because they own it. I don't. For all I know they might have sold it to someone else.

To suggest that I was "scammed" is totally false. I SOLD MY TIMESHARE. I really don't understand why you would try to intimidate people with speculation that is not legitimate.

ken1193 wrote:

gerrymanning wrote:

Do a google search on timesharesbegone and you will find the llc, which is in Alvaton, Kentucky (no phone number, web site, etc.) If you check domain registrations you will find that the names timesharesbegone.com timesharesbegone.info are both taken, but have moved around from host to host a lot and cannot be accessed directly at the present time. I would guess that this particular scam has been take "off-line" at least for the present time.

Ultimately, this alleged "transfer to a mystery llc" may never be acknowledged or accepted by the resort. Moreover, the transfer deed itself, if challenged in court, could later be determined to be invalid and void if this mystery LLC was created solely for the purpose of defrauding facilities by creating a phony dumping ground for unwanted timeshares. In short, "colvin" should not consider this matter "closed". It may very well resurface later and he could very well later be determined to STILL be the lawful owner of record --- with $985 less in his bank account, and maintenance fees unpaid and accruing late fees and interest. We shall see...

So, if person did want to sell their timeshare who would they turn to for help? After reading all these replies who can we trust to help us? If we list it on redweek, who do we get to help us complete the transaction? It's all scary.....

mccabin wrote:

So, if person did want to sell their timeshare who would they turn to for help? After reading all these replies who can we trust to help us? If we list it on redweek, who do we get to help us complete the transaction? It's all scary.....

Most sellers use a timeshare closing service .... one reputable one is timesharetransfer.com .....