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ir6 wrote:I've researched Redweek as well, which is an upfront fee based site, without the exposure. My friends tried a ton of resale companies including redweek.com and nothing ever transpired, thats why I decided on Buyatimeshare.com.
My own direct experience (not just "research") using RedWeek and/or MyResort Network to conduct rentals has been considerably different from that of your "friends". My results have been 100% productive, and for less than $60 advertising cost per rental. Moreover, the "exposure" is certainly much GREATER on either site than on the obscure one you report using. After all, why would someone even LOOK at a site called BUYatimeshare when looking for a RENTAL in the first place, I'm prompted to wonder...
To be truthful, I cannot help wondering if you are merely a "shill" for Vacation Property Resales and/or Buyatimeshare.com, trying to acquire some free advertising here by some "name dropping". The "exposure" on the site you reference is certainly much LESS than the THOUSANDS of members and users of RedWeek.com and / or MyResortNetwork.com. Frankly, your claims just plain don't add up...
Just for the record, I have NO affiliation with EITHER RedWeek OR MyResortNetwork, beyond having had 100% success when using those sites on those occasions when I have rented out my weeks.
KC
Last edited by ken1193 on Jan 21, 2010 06:01 AM
Ken- I don't doubt that Redweek, or myresortnetwork.com are effective for some people. I was just sharing that I have had success renting with Buyatimeshare.com. I was able to find the company when looking to rent my timeshare out, despite the word "buy" in the name of the URL. I'm not trying to start a disagreement over which company is better--I'm merely saying that my experience with Buyatimeshare was successful and has proven to be cost effective. Have a good day!
I R.
ir6 wrote:The service I got was great for the price--I've researched Redweek as well, which is an upfront fee based site, without the exposure.
The Redweek fee you mention is for membership and ads similar to a newspaper .... it is in no way related to upfront fee resale companies that charge in the hundreds/thousands of dollars and never sale a timeshare ... all they want is the upfront fee. Redweek is the number one internet timeshare ad site and it gets thousands of hits each day from people looking to buy, rent or sale a timeshare.
So, the company you use doesn't charge any kind of fee ????
R P.
Timeshare resellers will typically have the services in place to sell your timeshare successfully. Some actively target timeshare buyers with a genuine interest in selling off inventory. Buyers look to online search engines when buying today. Timeshares are no exception. Not every company will take your money and run, you certainly should research any company before you pay.
Dave W.
jayjay- I understand where you are coming from! I have also heard the horror stories of people being taken advantage of! I do not personally have any experience with actually selling a timeshare online, I have only used the rental services from this company. There is a fee, I paid once for a lifetime membership, and have already rented four times. The fee I paid was recouped in my second rental, so it is pure profit at this point. I understand that everyone's situation is different-- in my case, I've been happy with the process and the money I've made from my rentals. davew- I think that you couldn't have worded it better! It seems like a lot of people are hoping for a quick fix, and many don't take the time to properly research their options. These people undoubtedly get taken for a ride by the scam companies. It took me a couple of months to make the decision to list with this company--I wanted to make sure that they were legit before paying the fee. My contact person, Quincy Browne, I think his name was(?) really took his time to explain the process in full, several times actually, although a sales person he showed me independent web traffic companies to prove their results, I believe one was alexa.com. I found others doing research on my own, but again Im not making a recommendation, but only stating my experience. Like any industry, the timeshare industry has good guys and bad guys, and you have to sift through them all before committing to one. It seems that these guys wouldnt be in business if the resorts would actually help their customer base with reselling or renting!
I R.
Richard-
After posting a question on redweek.com I was approached by someone that said VPResales moved a couple of weeks for him. This guy wanted me to email him, which I did and he gave me their phone #. Before I could call one of their guys called me. Seems suspicious. Anyway, have you had any luck selling your week?
How long have they had your money? How much are they asking for your week? Have you had ANY offers?
Let me know.
Thanks
Marshall R.
Marshall-- I think that it violates Redweek Forum rules to post a company's contact information directly on the forum, however the individual that I worked with from this company was Quincy Brown. I have rented four weeks at my resort in Mexico through this company. Best of luck with your weeks in Cabo!
I R.
ir6 wrote:It took me a couple of months to make the decision to list with this company--I wanted to make sure that they were legit before paying the fee.
That's odd, you said on another thread concerning this company that they were highly recommended by your sister who had had success with them .... why did you then feel the need to take a couple of months to make sure that they were legit since your sister had supposedly already given you the okay ... the more I read your posts the more you sound like a SHILL, sorry.
R P.
@ jayjay:
I'll quote myself directly here-- I think you missed something:
"I chose to pay this money after months of research and analysis-- And even with all of this research, I might have still not chosen to pay this price if not for my sister-in-law's success with the same company. Its one thing to read a company's references, but when your reference is a family member that you've seen have success, it means a lot more!! She did a one-time rental with this company, and as she lives the next town over I was privy to the whole process every step of the way, and I gained respect for how this company did their business."
I knew that my sister in law had listed with a company around the same time as I started researching several different companies. It took a couple of months for her to get an offer. During this time, I was researching this specific company, as well as a couple other ones. Once she got a reasonable offer, she contacted me and we discovered that my "first choice" in companies was the same one that she had listed with. At that point, I asked her to keep me informed every step of the way, so that I could see what the process was. Yes, she was successful, but as you said there is NO GUARANTEE that a company will deliver for each specific situation-- I still wanted to research to see if it looked like the best option for my specific situation. Additionally, we are dealing with two separate issues-- 1) Can the company find you a renter, and 2) How does the company handle the rental process after a renter has been found. Between my research and my sister-in-law's experience, I was able to answer both of those questions satisfactorily.
JayJay, and please correct me if I am wrong-- you no longer own timeshare, correct? So, then it seems that you have taken on a sort of "protective" role towards the other, perhaps less knowledgeable, forum members. I can appreciate that entirely, and think it is commendable to spend so much energy assuring that others do not get ripped off. I simply ask that you allow for the fact that maybe there are a handful of companies out there that have the capability to assist people in selling or renting their timeshares. You can label me a shill if you like. But unless I am breaking a specific rule, I think that in this open and public forum, I should not be chastised for unbiasedly detailing my experiences, no?
I R.
I almost just got taken for the second time. A few years ago I put money upfront about $500 and never heard from them again. Today I got a call from Mark Andrews from Vacation Property Resellers who wants to sell my timeshare tonight because he has buyers willing to pay me $16,000 for my Hilton Head week. Who wouldn't "instant cash in your pocket immediately". The call actually came from a telemarketer and once he got me on the phone he turned it over to Mark. He was a very fast talking guy with a "pitch" that reels you in. "All I have to do is put a one year maintenance fee of $1,000 on my credit card and he will do the rest so that I can back to my business." I asked a few questions and so he complimented me "you would be surprised how many people I deal with who have no idea of what this is all about. Clearly you understand that the money you pay up front is all you pay so we can do the rest. I will begin doing a title search today to make sure everything is fine however I need your commitment for the $1,000 to get the process started. I know you want the cash as soon as possible". He said he was the sales executive in charge of all Hilton Head properties (established his credentials). He gave me all of their contact information including their website and everything matched perfectly. This gives the appearance of legitimacy. I guess they feel that you will not do any further investigation -well I have a surprise for them. I called the office back and have left a message that I am not interested in selling my timeshare through them. It will be interesting if he follows up and what new lines he comes up with. It was interesting when he said to me you know the market is down and I agreed and then he said he could sell it for $16,000 -that's when the red flag went off for me. Plus I talk pretty fast and he was much faster than I am. BEWARE!!!!
Bob M.
No, Vacation Property Resellers and Vacation Property Resales are not the same company. I have worked with the VP Resales in the past, but only know them as buyatimeshare.com not Resellers. They did charge a fee, but it was much less than $1000 and they didnt claim to have buyers waiting or anything. That would definitely be a sign that the sales executive in charge of all Hilton Head Properties is just not serious.
Kevin W.
ir6 wrote:@ jayjay:JayJay, and please correct me if I am wrong-- you no longer own timeshare, correct? So, then it seems that you have taken on a sort of "protective" role towards the other, perhaps less knowledgeable, forum members. I can appreciate that entirely, and think it is commendable to spend so much energy assuring that others do not get ripped off. I simply ask that you allow for the fact that maybe there are a handful of companies out there that have the capability to assist people in selling or renting their timeshares. You can label me a shill if you like. But unless I am breaking a specific rule, I think that in this open and public forum, I should not be chastised for unbiasedly detailing my experiences, no?
Sorry I missed your post above .... no, we do not timeshare any longer but we previously owned 9 timeshares and we sold all 9 before the economy crashed, we traveled extensively for 5 years and we finally got the travel bug out of our system.
Now, about ALL companies that charge an upfront fee to supposedly sell your timeshare .... let me ask you this, would you pay a realtor an upfront fee to sell your house ... no, the realtor has to work hard to sell your house and they get their fees at closing. Why in the world would you pay a timeshare resale company an upfront fee for doing absolutely nothing .... all they want is that your upfront fee.
R P.
bobm425 wrote:I almost just got taken for the second time. A few years ago I put money upfront about $500 and never heard from them again. Today I got a call from Mark Andrews from Vacation Property Resellers who wants to sell my timeshare tonight because he has buyers willing to pay me $16,000 for my Hilton Head week. Who wouldn't "instant cash in your pocket immediately". The call actually came from a telemarketer and once he got me on the phone he turned it over to Mark. He was a very fast talking guy with a "pitch" that reels you in. "All I have to do is put a one year maintenance fee of $1,000 on my credit card and he will do the rest so that I can back to my business." I asked a few questions and so he complimented me "you would be surprised how many people I deal with who have no idea of what this is all about. Clearly you understand that the money you pay up front is all you pay so we can do the rest. I will begin doing a title search today to make sure everything is fine however I need your commitment for the $1,000 to get the process started. I know you want the cash as soon as possible". He said he was the sales executive in charge of all Hilton Head properties (established his credentials). He gave me all of their contact information including their website and everything matched perfectly. This gives the appearance of legitimacy. I guess they feel that you will not do any further investigation -well I have a surprise for them. I called the office back and have left a message that I am not interested in selling my timeshare through them. It will be interesting if he follows up and what new lines he comes up with. It was interesting when he said to me you know the market is down and I agreed and then he said he could sell it for $16,000 -that's when the red flag went off for me. Plus I talk pretty fast and he was much faster than I am. BEWARE!!!!
"Fool me once it's your fault, fool me twice it's my fault."
The caller DOES NOT have someone waiting to buy your timeshare .... after you hand over the upfront fee they'll tell you that the buyer couldn't get financing, backed out or some other lie, but they KEEP your upfront fee promising you that someone else will come along.
And ask yourself why a prospective buyer would pay developer price (in this case $16,000) when timeshares are selling for one cent to one dollar on ebay and some people are going so far as to GIVING them away.
R P.
You can choose to believe the post above if you wish (...I certainly don't). However, please consider several other items of input as well:
1. This outfit (located in Tampa, FL) is currently under investigation by the FL Attorney General's office.
2. You can easily "Google" the company name of Vacation Property Resales yourself and easily find many complaints from unhappy "customers", including specific items on ripoffreport.com.
3. I personally know a man who gave these particular parasites just over $1,000 a few years ago to "list" three timeshares. He NEVER heard from them again, and he NEVER got a single call or offer. With a little (free) help (from me), he later sold all three timeshares HIMSELF within a six month time period for a total advertising expenditure of about $110.
You can believe whomever you choose to believe in these forums, but in "upfront fee" matters there are no "victims", only unwise volunteers. My advice is KEEP your hard earned money --- and DON'T VOLUNTEER!
============================================================ P.S. added 5/28: I see that the phony "endorsement" from (alleged) "realtor" gwenm39 on 5/27 has now suddenly and completely disappeared. I don't know if this was the result of RedWeek Moderator action, or the result of gwenm39 just "promptly heading for the hills" upon being exposed as an obvious (...but VERY unconvincing) shill for Vacation Property Resales. Either way, it's certainly for the best...
KC
Last edited by ken1193 on May 28, 2010 11:00 AM
There are a few that charge a flat fee of $1500 if they sell or a commission depending on how much it sold for, however, they are few and far between. Google or Bing 'no upfront fee timeshare resale companies'.
If your week is desirable and in a desirable location you can just as well list it yourself on timeshare ad sites such as Redweek and others for little money ..... it all boils down to supply and demand of the week owned and the resort where you own.
R P.