Company called Paradise Property Group Offering to Re-Sell Mayan Palace Timeshare for NO Upfront Fee

angiem123 wrote:

craig goodman (one could hope, lol sorry craig) at 206-926-3571 , an owner in finance of paradise properties called me a bit upset that i have blogged negativity about his company in this forum. i cant say that i blame him. i apologized and told him i would retract anything negative i may have suggested and see if he can get me closed. thats fair. he had the same concerns, he too is an educated business owner, he too is weary but cannot find any proof that paradise properties is anything but a company who has a client who has put forth money to purchase our timeshares. i told craig that i would retract anything i said negative about his company. i do not want to harm any company or person by slandering them without proof one way or the other until i get to the end of the process and know for myself.

Just for the record, "slander" is when you verbally say something wrong about someone or a company that damages its image and credibility. If you write or print such wrong information, it's called "libel".

But, technicalities aside, you are only committing "libel" if you say something incorrect about PPG. The information you gave in your first post seems to be accurate.

Craig Goodman, one of the owners of Paradise Properties has not called me back. I have called him 6 times and left messages. I was supposed to close on Friday. Apparently he is having an issue following through. Will keep you posted. Angie.

I've just been contacted by this group. Its the same as Royal Members which is a scam. I offered to give them my timeshares and they could keep the profit. No such luck I guess they thought I was trying to scam them.

Gary: please, can you share a little of what you describe as the "Royal Members" scam? Are you saying that the people working for Paradise Property Group are the same people that U were dealing with at that company called Royal Members? The company just changed its name and is running the same type of scam?

Everything you and everone else has said about Paradise Properities is identical to Royal Members. The holding company was Ryan and Ross out of Savanna except there is no such holding company at the address given. I'm thinking Paradise are the same people that use to be Royal Members. I'm told if anyone can actually find where they are located they can be prosecuted.

They are in Seattle, WA.

Did your sale ever close? This is the first real information I have seen online about this company and am so grateful to find it. Thank you to everyone who posted here!

NO. My sale never closed. This man who called saying His name was Craig Goodman called me very Angry that I posted on this forum, he said he was The owner of Paradise Properties. I told him I Would retract and give him a chance to help Me close the next day. he agreed. I called Paradise Properties 6 times over the next week And no one answered, I left voice mails. No one Ever called back. A lady called, a real estate broker and she said This other company did this exact sales pitch With her 4 months ago and tshe sent Mexican Government over $10,000 for closing costs And taxes and a woman named "Julie goodman" Told her after she sent money that if she reported This company to Better business Bureau then She would not close. After 4 months, Paradise Properties opened using this woman's stolen Identity. I can only relay what this woman told Me so I can't verify if it's true. I believe her.

ATTENTION: IT IS CONFIRMED THAT PARADISE PROPERTY GROUP IS FRAUD! THE PHYSICAL ADDRESS THAT THEY ARE CLAIMING TO BE OPERATING OUT OF DOES NOT EXIST. I CALLED THE PROPERTY MANAGER OF 1402 3RD AVENUE, AND SHE STATED THAT THERE IS NO SUITE 4018, AND PARADISE PROPERTIES DOES NOT LEASE A UNIT AT 1402 SOUTH 3RD. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. THEIR INFORMATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE FTC, BBB AND POLICE FOR FRAUD.

This is Angie. I have had several phone calls from several of you From all over the US. I can hear it in your voices that you want to Believe that Paradise Properties is going to Pay you your $28,000 for a time share that Is worth next to nothing to begin with. I know they may call you every morning to Proceed. I know they have all the docs. And How nice and persuasive they may sound. But the owner of PP promised me to close the Next day so I could be your spokesperson and then tell you all that they Are a legit company. And the supposed owner neglected to even Call me back on closing day. I've left several Messages and they have neglected to even Return my calls. Thank Goodness I DID NOT Give them my correct SS number or ANY money!

Beware! Any company promising to pay you This much for a timeshare are probably going To scam you, even steal your identity to open Up a new company under a new name. You have been warned by Several of us here. Don't think you know better. Also, please don't believe that if "Any things too Good to believe then it is" My husband and I Just bought 3 commercial retail spaces completely Renovated from the bank for A price "too good to be true" but it was true. I had all 3 spaces rented within 2 days, income Producing. There is much opportunity out there. Use your common sense. PP could of been Buying our units for an investor but they simply Are not who they say. So buyers and sellers Beware. Angie in Atlanta.

HA! THEIR ADDRESS MIRACULOUSLY CHANGED OVER NIGHT AFTER I MADE THE LAST POSTING! THERE IS NO 277 CHERRY STREET EITHER, FELLAS! I CALLED THE KING COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF ASSESSMENTS IN SEATTLE! I COULD DO THIS ALL DAY, SO STOP SCAMMING AND GET A REAL JOB!

I was today may 10 2012 reading this forum and I am glad that there are some people out there to help me in this matter. some years ago my wife and me bought a timeshare from monarc grand vacation so far we have used it only 3 times, one for every year. since I do not use it I would like to sell it to someone who use it; but where do I start do not know. it is one of those timeshare that you get some points every year and you have to pay for times a year per maintenance fee. I am almost disable by now and I can not go on paying the fees. my resort companie have many resorts where I can go. I do not really know what I have and what I do not have. CAN YOU HELP ME OUT ?

josep33 wrote:

. CAN YOU HELP ME OUT ?

Whatever you do, never ever pay anyone a large, upfront fee to sell, rent out, market, or "cancel" your timeshare.

Second thing to remember is that most, if not all, timeshares in Mexico are virtually worthless on the resale market. Many owners of timeshares in Mexico are trying to give them away --- without any takers. You may have to resort to giving your timeshare away and offering the new taker some incentive to take it.

Try listing it in RedWeek's Bargain Basement or advertise it for $1. Also, Timeshare Users Group (aka "TUG; tugbbs.com) has a Bargain Deals section where, for free, you can advertise that you want to give your timeshare away. Just follow the instructions at the top of that page.

thank you for taking your time to respond to my question

It seems like a lot of people are having the same issue here. Hold all fees in escrow until the transaction is complete and verified funds have been deposited.

i am in the same situation as everyone else on this forum, luckily i didnt pay anything before doing a search of ppg. i submitted a complaint to the ftc and washington state ag. i just got off the phone with the ag and she said they couldnt find this co in washington. she gave me an fbi website to complain to , use it if you want its www.ic3.gov. hopefully enough people complain maybe justice can be served. good luck everybody

I have just been reading your comments - a little too late for me - I have just been scammed for $10,000.00. STUPID. I have so much paperwork which seemed legal at the time when we saw it. Letterhead, 3 different phone #'s, names such as Craig Goodman, Gary Nielson, George Triggs, and a few more. I guess we wanted to sell the timeshare, and didn't see what should have been right in front of us. Have not been able to contact them and had been leaving message after message for past 2 weeks and now all phone numbers changed, messages in Spanish. I see someone else has a link to usFBI and I will be contacting them as well as trying to contact someone here in Canada.

wandat36 wrote:

I have just been reading your comments - a little too late for me - I have just been scammed for $10,000.00. STUPID. I have so much paperwork which seemed legal at the time when we saw it. Letterhead, 3 different phone #'s, names such as Craig Goodman, Gary Nielson, George Triggs, and a few more. I guess we wanted to sell the timeshare, and didn't see what should have been right in front of us. Have not been able to contact them and had been leaving message after message for past 2 weeks and now all phone numbers changed, messages in Spanish. I see someone else has a link to usFBI and I will be contacting them as well as trying to contact someone here in Canada.

Above is their typical 'modus operandi' = how the scammers operate.

I was contacted with an offer similar to what was described above by Paradise. I too was promised "no upfront fees" but then was asked to wire money to cover a transfer fee of 2700 before closing. I have declined, but want to know if any others out there have been contacted by M& M Management aka Murray & McGuire Management Group in Dallas (who brought in someone named Walter from Premier "the escrow company.") ? I have not been able to find any posts or warnings on these companies.

deannej4 wrote:

I was contacted with an offer similar to what was described above by Paradise. I too was promised "no upfront fees" but then was asked to wire money to cover a transfer fee of 2700 before closing. I have declined, but want to know if any others out there have been contacted by M& M Management aka Murray & McGuire Management Group in Dallas (who brought in someone named Walter from Premier "the escrow company.") ? I have not been able to find any posts or warnings on these companies.

I've never heard of that company, but the mantra here on Redweek's forums is to never, ever pay a large upfront fee to any entity to rent or sell your timeshare .... they're all scams.

I assumed that the aforementioned entity would demand a large upfront fee before closing and they did .... they may call it a transfer fee, a closing fee, recording fee (or whatever fee), but there's always an upfront fee included ..... in other words if they told you that there would be NO upfront fee before closing then they outright LIED.