The Manhattan Club

Manhattan Club Lawsuit

Jul 05, 2018

going to repost something another owner posted recently. I just called (spoke to Lena)...to REQUEST my ticket to August 9 meeting. I suggest anyone who is able to go this day , please call - get your ticket. Thank you.

Just a reminder for those of you who are interested in attending TMC members board meeting on Aug. 9, 2018, here is the time and location: AMA New York Conference Center, 1601 Broadway (48th and Broadway) 8th floor New York, New York 10019 on August 9, 2018 at 9:00am. 1-800-891- 3570

You need to call TMC to receive invitation to attend the meeting. Otherwise, you will be turned away.


Sue O.
Jul 05, 2018

It appears that Bluegreen - if allowed to exercise this option to buy TMC - will own the inventory BEFORE it even begins to take on the Management duties in 2021! Everyone understands what that means right?? all of Bluegreen current owners that are on the points system will now be able to access more inventory - OUR rooms, and it will be worse than it has ever been to get a room. They have not allowed buy backs of their own timeshares or let current owners out of their obligations - in fact they refer owners to sell their own timeshares and they are not involved. They are a business - they will either charge you a huge penalty fee to get out of this, or they go after past maintenance - I just do not agree they will ever just let anyone walk away. Our contract has no end date, no cap on maintenance - we were sold a bill of goods, the contract and paperwork and bylaws were ridiculous for a lay person! We need to do something now - I do NOT see any other lawyers or firms coming forward with any other ideas!

I hope more of you decide to join Zimmerman Law's efforts.


Sue O.
Jul 06, 2018

I guess You haven’t done much work on mergers and acquisitions. Those unpaid maintenance fees are a liability, not an asset, to the acquiring company. Agree with others that you need to stop posting if you don’t have anything intelligent to communicate


Jody C.
Jul 06, 2018

WOW Those with whom we disagree are not intelligent and should stop posting.

Did you read the last posting by Mr. Zimmerman that it is not a good idea to withhold maintenance fees?

We should not keep posting the same things over and over? We are on page 216. How any times have we read the same things over and over.

When money is owed to a company, it is an asset on the balance sheet.

The new owner will not sue people who owe, they will turn the debts over to a collection agency. Good bye to any 800+ credit scores.

Anyone who does not like what I post should check the names, and when you see my name, don't read the post.


William M.

Last edited by williamm465 on Jul 06, 2018 08:57 AM

Jul 06, 2018

Unfortunately, when owners didn't pay their assessments, those that did had to increase theirs.


Laura H.
Jul 06, 2018

When a contract is broken by one their is no longer any obligation to abide by terms...!! That’s the matter simple...I paid $60,000.00 & maintained my taxes/maintenance fees-unable to reserve my desired dates / single days or weeks ....sooo I’m afraid NO COLLECTION AGENCY can honor their desire to come after Folks ....no need to re litigate this!


Debbie B.
Jul 06, 2018

Goes to show how many people are running from this like rats off a sinking ship. I'm advanced enough in my life where I no longer care about my credit score and it's "good"@ 720. They can either dissolve this whole scam or try to get what's "owed" to them from my grave. Own your "vacation" ,yeah right! Buying a timeshare is one of the most foolish scams perpetrated on the American public.


Gerard S.
Jul 06, 2018

I have been trying to find the contact e mail for the attorney but can't seem to find that. Condominium Law is very important in condo development. I am familiar with that of California but not that of NY. After a certain number of units have been sold in CA, the developer must turn the board over to the owners. I have never heard of a developer that continually hung on to the property. Okay, Eichner was the management company, but once the Board was turned over to the owners they could and should have fired him.

If the BOD was made up of owners,as it should have been, that board should have been shopping for management. Why Eichman? Who is searching? This outfit they're talking about has a definite conflict of interest. They bought up a block of units from Eichman a long time ago.

Management (Eichman) has been negligent.


Laura H.
Jul 06, 2018

No, Laurah136, TMC made plenty of money renting rooms out of those who were not paying. And when I WAS paying, they were not giving me ANY time, but renting rooms out...MY room, MY time...to the general public, thereby DOUBLE DIPPING... and they did this how many people?? For how long?? They made more than enough money on me and many many others by this double dipping over the years. Took my money gave me nothing and rented my time out. Does it occur to you that the reason that the fees went up was the 6.5 million that Eichner was skimming every year to his shell company?? So please, place the blame squarely where it belongs. IAN BRUCE EICHNER and his cronies


Debra L.

Last edited by debral251 on Jul 06, 2018 11:56 AM

Jul 06, 2018

I with you, Gerard!


Debra L.
Jul 06, 2018

William, I work with collection agencies everyday, as part of my job, and if this ever were turned over to a collection agency, the minute I tell them the story and show them all of the findings from the Attorney General's office, all the admissions of wrong doing, they will not pursue this and I will have this removed from my credit. Guaranteed. But I don't think that this is the way it's going to go. Time will tell


Debra L.

Last edited by debral251 on Jul 06, 2018 12:07 PM

Jul 06, 2018

Grade A-1 Baloney


John D.
Jul 06, 2018

laurah136, laura, think about it. regardless of who did or did not pay maintenance fees, these fees would have risen (as they did exponentially) per THE MANHATTAN CLUB MANAGEMENT THIEVES AND SCAM/FRAUD MONGERS. your maintenance fees did not rise because of owners who chose not to pay their fees. they rose because THAT WAS EICHNER'S DEVIOUS PLAN FROM THE MOMENT YOU ENTERED THAT SALES DUNGEON OF THIEVES (APPROPRIATELY TRAINED BY THAT CRIMINAL-WHO-GOT-AWAY-WITH-IT.....EICHNER). put the blame where it rightfully belongs, NOT ON YOUR FELLOW OWNERS.

i believe part of zimmerman's outlined lawsuit plans includes remedies for the exorbitantly high maintenance fees imposed by eichner, not by those owners who did not pay their fees. i assume you heard your salesperson (whenever you purchased) tell you that the maintenance fees would rise "slightly over time". i repeat myself: 400%, the approximate increase "over time", is hardly considered SLIGHT! all of those salespeople should have been included in schneiderman's litigation and summoned to court to face charges for accepting and following eichner's edict to commit fraud via lying to us purchasers. but schneiderman apparently did not show the legal know-how while trying this case. ha................a settlement of $6 million. yep, the joke's on us.


Chris V.

Last edited by chrisv126 on Jul 07, 2018 02:02 PM

Jul 06, 2018

I have to agree with you. As a former timeshare professional, there are ALWAYS rooms available, but not for the owners who gave up their hard earned dollars. That's why I never recommend buying points. No control and no protection.


Wayne C.
Jul 06, 2018

Can't say that buying a timeshare is a scam. As a former timeshare sales and marketing professional, the people are the scams. Unfortunately, people do not look into the industry before the purchase. They buy on impulse, and this is how the developers make their money.

I think that the doors have opened up for people to buy timeshares on their own terms - the resale market. You an take your time, pay what you desire, and buy exactly what you want and where you want.

I would NEVER recommend anyone buy points as they lose control, lost protection and the points inflate over time. In most cases, you cannot use the new resorts with old points. You must always "upgrade." Yes, a scam. I would always recommend buying deeded weeks.


Wayne C.

Last edited by redweek_support on Jul 09, 2018 08:40 AM

Jul 06, 2018

I agree with you. You have done your part, and they have not completed their end of the bargain. You have a FICA score of 800. Didn't know it went that far. Cheers.

As a fomer timeshare sales and marketing executive people buy on impulse without doing their homework. But the developers have to depend on this as once people are gone after the presentation "out of site, out of mind," no sale.


Wayne C.

Last edited by redweek_support on Jul 09, 2018 08:42 AM

Jul 07, 2018

AND...the fees were rising HIGH long before myself and others decided to stop paying. So you can throw that theory out the window, all the while collecting our fees, refusing us time ..and renting our time to the public. How do you explain that... if you think that the reason the fees went up because of owners who are not paying??


Debra L.
Jul 07, 2018

Wayne, FICO score range is 300 - 850


Debra L.

Last edited by debral251 on Jul 07, 2018 07:21 AM

Jul 07, 2018

I hope you are right Debra (that collection agencies will not go after TMC).


William M.

Last edited by williamm465 on Jul 07, 2018 01:49 PM

Jul 07, 2018

Why would they be "going after TMC"??


Debra L.

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