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Jan 07, 2013

hazena wrote:
I agree....hard to believe they cannot get him and do something about him What is the problem.

THEY is you .... somebody's got to get the ball rolling with all the info about him on Facebook.


R P.
Jan 07, 2013

tinak117 wrote:
I heard he had weight loss surgery.

Weight loss surgery couldn't make him look that young AND his wife looks young in the latest photo.


R P.
Jan 07, 2013

Bruces143 or anyone else hearing about the next meeting please post the company name and contact information in this room. Let us know the location and time of the meeting so we can have someone attend the meeting and document it for referral to the authorities for prosecution. This is our chance to catch them red handed. Let's not pass up an opportunity to catch them in the act and finally bring them to justice.


Don P.
Jan 07, 2013

The "number specialist" was William Thompson from R & R Venture group. Cell number is 815-217-4534. The man from VSI was David Braddock. He did not have a business card but gave me his email because he wanted to know about the magazine "Timesharing Today." Email is dmb212@yahoo.com. I did not contact him. When I spoke with William the next day and told him we had changed our mind and cancelled our credit card. I told him I had read about the scam on the internet. His response was "Oh you must have read that forum and it is all a misunderstanding. You don't have anything to worry about-we are not a scam. I told him "I don't believe you-you are a scam" He hung up on me!! If I hear of anything I will let you know.


Bruce S.
Jan 07, 2013

My parents' salesmen were Hughes Dewailley & Pat Thompson... I wonder if Pat Thompson & William Thompson could be the same person.... They didn't have business cards either, so possibly none of these names are real.


Tina K.
Jan 08, 2013

If anyone is contacted about their next meeting. Please post the date, time and location.


Don P.
Jan 08, 2013

BJ Cooke said, "I know I'm still not being quite as polite as I should be to Tina but it is a big pill to swallow having someone that you didn't charge and that the resort refunded immediately put uneducated thoughts and inaccurate portrayals about your livelihood. The amount of inaccuracy in her story from beginning to end is horrifying and anyone that knows basic timeshare sales can see that."

HaHa That's a real joke! Here we are, over 7 months after the "sale" and my parents have not received a refund or a deed or membership in RCI's Points Program. The only things they have received are bills from Sunset Harbor Resorts for maintenance dues and credit card bills from Bank of America to pay. Oh yeah, you know, the amount that's supposed to be paid with this huge check my parents were GUARANTEED to receive within 6 months!?!?


Tina K.
Jan 08, 2013

reginaldt11 wrote:
B J Cooke makes you wait 6 months, because after 6 months you can not DISPUTE a claim on you credit card. The credit card will not go after a third party. Bank of America and R C I, are making big bucks from B J Cooke, but they claim they do not know him. Like the rest of you no return calls.

My parents' salesmen never turned in the membership registration or membership dues to RCI, so RCI has no knowledge of my parents' transaction. RCI also doesn't have any information about my parents "owning" a timeshare at Sunset Harbor Resorts. Sunset Harbor Resorts simply kept all the money for themselves. Apparently, they also never filed any deeds with the county because my parents never received copies of that either. Bank of America could be pocketing a lot of interest if people are paying monthly payments, especially after the low introductory rate ends, but SHR got the $9500. Debbie Berra, the on-site resort manager at Sunset Harbor Resorts admitted that they pay commissions to the "brokers" though.


Tina K.
Jan 08, 2013

Oh I have filed with the Attorney Generals and ARDA and RCI and BBB; and TREC.


Scarlett M.
Jan 09, 2013

As I stated many comments earlier, I successfully settled with Sunset (including amount charged by PRL). I even listed an attorney who assisted me. In brief, I complained to all the parties mentioned in the recent comments (Got nowhere with RCI or BOA). I did have my two daughters-in- law, recognized experts in elder abuse law, pitch in. Whatever, I was contacted by Sunset, and eventually all my claims were set- tled. Believe it or not. This is the last time I will comment on this.


Theodore D.

Last edited by phyl21 on Jan 22, 2013 08:00 AM

Jan 09, 2013

I am going to contact Mr. Bowie tomorrow. Were his fees reasonable?


Mari R.
Jan 10, 2013

How long after the initial transaction did you complain to all parties? What city/state is Mr. Bowie located in? Which party finally agreed to settle? In other words, who refunded your money? Thanks!

theodored7 wrote:
As I stated many comments earlier, I successfully settled with Sunset (including amount charged by PRL). I even listed the at-\ torney, Mr. Bowie (ph 4078346444), who assisted me. In brief, I complained to all the parties mentioned in the recent comments (Got nowhere with RCI or BOA). I did have my two daughters-in- law, recognized experts in elder abuse law, pitch in. Whatever, I was contacted by Sunset, and eventually all my claims were set- tled. Believe it or not. This is the last time I will comment on this.


Tina K.
Jan 10, 2013

none


Sandra P.

Last edited by sandrap250 on Jan 10, 2013 01:03 AM

Jan 10, 2013

I would be very careful calling that attorney's number. It's an Orlando area code. Orlando is home to a lot of timeshare frauds. Make sure you check him out with the Florida Bar Association before doing any business with him. I would also consult another attorney for a second opinion before giving him any money or signing any commitment.


Don P.
Jan 10, 2013

I tried to call that number today and it has been disconnected - not a good sign.......

donp196 wrote:
I would be very careful calling that attorney's number. It's an Orlando area code. Orlando is home to a lot of timeshare frauds. Make sure you check him out with the Florida Bar Association before doing any business with him. I would also consult another attorney for a second opinion before giving him any money or signing any commitment.


Mari R.
Jan 10, 2013

I tried to call that number today and it has been disconnected - not a good sign...........

tinak117 wrote:
How long after the initial transaction did you complain to all parties? What city/state is Mr. Bowie located in? Which party finally agreed to settle? In other words, who refunded your money? Thanks!

theodored7 wrote:
As I stated many comments earlier, I successfully settled with Sunset (including amount charged by PRL). I even listed the at-\ torney, Mr. Bowie (ph 4078346444), who assisted me. In brief, I complained to all the parties mentioned in the recent comments (Got nowhere with RCI or BOA). I did have my two daughters-in- law, recognized experts in elder abuse law, pitch in. Whatever, I was contacted by Sunset, and eventually all my claims were set- tled. Believe it or not. This is the last time I will comment on this.


Mari R.
Jan 10, 2013

Would it be better to contact an attorney where I live or in Texas?


Mari R.
Jan 10, 2013

If you decide to use an attorney I would consult with your local bar association and ask for a referral.


Don P.
Jan 11, 2013

I can't believe DonP or jayjay haven't blown up that lawyer post with that (407) number yet. The newer sham is "lawyers" out of Florida that will get your money back and then don't do anything. The last thing that all these people need that have already lost money is to put another $1k into a sham. I get calls now that start "in our records we see you have given upfront money to a timeshare entity and have been wronged and we'll get your money back" Yeah okay. Don's advice is correct. That post from the (407) suggestion is a joke. I haven't heard of those joke lawyer companies scoping out forums to look for fish to catch but it makes sense they would. Free leads list. Prl is a dissolved LLC and sunset harbor is broke as a tick so I think that poster is one of those companies. I could see someone saying they got it back from their CC company because at that level you're dealing with merchant accounts and banks but a real attorney would know not to try to get money out or "prl" as it is a dissolved entity protected by the ridiculous state of Nevada LLC laws and sunset probably couldn't even write a good check for $9k. Beware of lawyers offing those services with upfront money. Dont want to throw more good money at bad. Do you agree DonP and jayjay? Have you seen that before on forums or no?


Frank C.
Jan 11, 2013

frankc397 wrote:
Do you agree DonP and jayjay? Have you seen that before on forums or no?

I'm neither Don P nor JJ but I do agree. This is another scam in the timeshare circles. Sometimes the people who claim they can get your money back from the original scam are indeed the same people who scammed you.

There are at least two methods to their scam. Let's say the first scam operation stung you for $1200. The "new" scam artist will say "We charge a 40% commission ($480)." The original scam artist sends you a refund check for $1200. Then the recovery scam artist demands that you send him his $480 commission. After he cashes your check, the $1200 that you received then bounces because it was a fake.

The other method is virtually the same but the first scam operator credits the credit card that you charged his scam fee for $1200. After that, the recovery scam demands that you send him his $4800 cut. After he receives it, the credit on your credit card is reversed because the original scam person challenges the credit because he fulfilled his side of the contract and the credit card company sides with him.


Lance C.

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