Manhattan Club Lawsuit

Chris,

You can attempt to justify your position and believe what you want, but it appears to me that the non owner accommodation fees are included in the budget analysis.

I stand by my analysis.

Again, that said, TMC is still screwing us in other ways.

Howard

Go Irene go!! YOU are impressive

Irene, what type of unit do you have? One bedroom two bedroom, etc? Thank you!

hi again howard,

here's how we're on the same page: we respect each other's opinions!

i hope we both agree that at the end of the day, regardless of our current stances, all TMC owners will prevail versus our common enemy.

happy, joyous, prosperous holidays!

chris

howardf62 wrote:

Chris,

You can attempt to justify your position and believe what you want, but it appears to me that the non owner accommodation fees are included in the budget analysis.

I stand by my analysis.

Again, that said, TMC is still screwing us in other ways.

Howard

No owner or nobody on the owners' side can image what's going on behind the scenes. The NYAG Investigation disclosed the facts it's hard to believe in.

"Despite Non-Payment, Sponsor (Eichners) Reserved Rooms, Making Millions of Dollars of Profit, and Reduced Inventory by Use of Complimentary Rooms and House Use Rooms ..."

"In Violation of the Offering Plan’s Representations, the Manhattan Club Charged Owners for Yearly Maintenance Fees and Real Estate Taxes Before Owners’ Anniversary Dates "

Chief of Finances testified that he and Lager jointly decided when to bill owners early. When asked who would decide how much of the ownership to bill early, he testified that he “would tell [an employee] how we are going to need $300,000 for payroll this week, and she would figure out how many people she needed to assess to do that.”

Read the investigation documentary https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=EYTCrZ/nuN2A9BkSE2eRCw==&system=prod

Good for you, Irene - that offer was a slap in the face and they should know you are not one to tangle with!!!

Ha! Irene 2 here. Diamond Resorts offered me $18,000 in 2016. I refused to sign the NDA. I've been writing ever since. Once about The Manhattan Club. One of TMC attorneys was really helpful.

Shouldn’t we as owners be entitled to a full accounting? I am really curious as to how the hotel income is handled.

hello irene 2,

"One of TMC attorneys was really helpful." please identify the TMC attorney you refer to. thanks.

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irenep59 wrote:

Ha! Irene 2 here. Diamond Resorts offered me $18,000 in 2016. I refused to sign the NDA. I've been writing ever since. Once about The Manhattan Club. One of TMC attorneys was really helpful.

Congratulations Irene! Thanks for not settling.

Not only accounting required. The officers that supposed to leave the Manhattan Club business pursuant to the NYAG AOD, are dealing on behalf of the Manhattan Club, originate new LLCs, don't have a desire to get out of a fraud business but remain their paychecks in correspondence with the the Manhattan Club. So called Timeshare Interval is a new fraud LLC that was created by the ex-employees of the Financial Department (Christine Stile alias Christine Anzioni or smth alike ). They change alias names, move to a different location, and continue to fraud. Their fraud is unlimited.

dickh68 wrote:

Shouldn’t we as owners be entitled to a full accounting? I am really curious as to how the hotel income is handled.

Wondering when the great crooks Mr. J. Wirshba and S.Reale are going to leave their positions at the Manhattan Club? Maybe it's time to ask them about execution of the NYAG AOD?

fibon wrote:

Not only accounting required. The officers that supposed to leave the Manhattan Club business pursuant to the NYAG AOD, are dealing on behalf of the Manhattan Club, originate new LLCs, don't have a desire to get out of a fraud business but remain their paychecks in correspondence with the the Manhattan Club. So called Timeshare Interval is a new fraud LLC that was created by the ex-employees of the Financial Department (Christine Stile alias Christine Anzioni or smth alike ). They change alias names, move to a different location, and continue to fraud. Their fraud is unlimited.

dickh68 wrote:

Shouldn’t we as owners be entitled to a full accounting? I am really curious as to how the hotel income is handled.

hello fibon.

"Wondering when the great crooks Mr. J. Wirshba and S.Reale are going to leave their positions at the Manhattan Club?"........................ i'm wondering why they weren't indicted as crooks/frauds in the first place. the whole eichner group deserves further court action resulting in punitive findings with a dose of jail time and retribution to all of us TMC defrauded owners.

fibon wrote:

Wondering when the great crooks Mr. J. Wirshba and S.Reale are going to leave their positions at the Manhattan Club? Maybe it's time to ask them about execution of the NYAG AOD?

fibon wrote:

Not only accounting required. The officers that supposed to leave the Manhattan Club business pursuant to the NYAG AOD, are dealing on behalf of the Manhattan Club, originate new LLCs, don't have a desire to get out of a fraud business but remain their paychecks in correspondence with the the Manhattan Club. So called Timeshare Interval is a new fraud LLC that was created by the ex-employees of the Financial Department (Christine Stile alias Christine Anzioni or smth alike ). They change alias names, move to a different location, and continue to fraud. Their fraud is unlimited.

dickh68 wrote:

Shouldn’t we as owners be entitled to a full accounting? I am really curious as to how the hotel income is handled.

The Manhattan Club is listed on Airbnb

https://www.airbnb.com/s/The-Manhattan-Club--Manhattan--New-York--NY/all?af=8781787&c=.pi0.pk16704873376_312657267504_c_45854979634&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhuvlBRCeARIsAM720Hp3Z1NZegp2JGfH9H0ZK34sjUHSINCq9GED6stqbvJASpqnLNNnTyQaAp1tEALw_wcB&refinement_paths%5B%5D=%2Ffor_you&place_id=ChIJtxZJIPhYwokR61Ynm-nHnnk

I am sure that they will stay until the last minute. I think they have until 2020 to vacate? Disgraceful. Management/Officers should have been removed immediately after this agreement with the New York State Attorney General was reached.

Wondering when the great crooks Mr. J. Wirshba and S.Reale are going to leave their positions at the Manhattan Club? Maybe it's time to ask them about execution of the NYAG AOD?

fibon wrote:

Not only accounting required. The officers that supposed to leave the Manhattan Club business pursuant to the NYAG AOD, are dealing on behalf of the Manhattan Club, originate new LLCs, don't have a desire to get out of a fraud business but remain their paychecks in correspondence with the the Manhattan Club. So called Timeshare Interval is a new fraud LLC that was created by the ex-employees of the Financial Department (Christine Stile alias Christine Anzioni or smth alike ). They change alias names, move to a different location, and continue to fraud. Their fraud is unlimited.

dickh68 wrote:

Shouldn’t we as owners be entitled to a full accounting? I am really curious as to how the hotel income is handled.

The Manhattan Club is renting rooms via Hosteeva

https://www.hosteeva.com/properties/available/details?property_id=3166&check_in=&check_out=&guests=1

until all TMC PRINCIPALS are indicted, charged, prosecuted, found guilty and remanded to federal cells for criminal federal fraud (read u s mail fraud)...............they will continue to do whatever in hell they wish to do. that appears to be the proverbial "BOTTOM LINE".................MINCING WORDS IS NOT AN OPTION.

Chris, you are absolutely right! How can they get away with this without some legal authority to do this. What legal authority would these employees have? We need to get some advice from Jean-Marc. It doesn’t make sense that a mere employee of TMC could offer to buy units without some sort of legal authority to do so. Somehow these employees have higher authority to make decisions and follow through on those decisions.

becky,

to answer your comment with reasonable assumptions, "Somehow these employees have higher authority to make decisions and follow through on those decisions."................this higher authority most likely includes EICHNER, WIRSHBA, REALE, AND/OR ANY OTHER EXECUTIVE OF THE FORMER TMC BOARD OF DIRECTORS who seem to be STILL RUNNING THE SHOW. it could also include bluegreen who supposedly was to have taken over TMC. BY COURT ORDER, EICHNER SHOULD NOW HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH TMC ON AN EXECUTIVE (OR ANY OTHER) LEVEL. the current new york state attorney general, letitia james, or the court itself, should oversee the ruling of the court when this case was (so ineptly) handled by the former ag, eric schneiderman. there seems to be no one accountable to oversee and enforce these legal penalties imposed on TMC. all of the principals are still committing crimes which go beyond, but include, criminal fraud. who is appointed to see to it that their penalties are carried out? eichner seems to continue to illegally build his empire as he said he would in a news interview a few years ago.

beckyf76 wrote:

Chris, you are absolutely right! How can they get away with this without some legal authority to do this. What legal authority would these employees have? We need to get some advice from Jean-Marc. It doesn’t make sense that a mere employee of TMC could offer to buy units without some sort of legal authority to do so. Somehow these employees have higher authority to make decisions and follow through on those decisions.

Louis Solomon is the Enforcement Section Chief | Real Estate Finance at the Office of the NYAG. Address: 1585 Broadway, New York, NY 10036 Phone: (212) 918-8966. He is the person who supposed to enforce the execution of the NYAG orders.