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WEll, I have sent letters and records to fraud dept of Bank of America. I received a letter stating they couldnt help. Then I called again and this time they told me to send to dispute not fraud. I did. I received a phone call telling me to send some information showing that i could connect PRL with SHR and that was what they seemed interested in doing. Gave me a very quick response time to send it in to them. I did as I was told. Again, after few weeks, I recieve the same kind of letter saying that the time frame had been too long from when the charges were put on the BoA. Like Yes, I know that and so did we know it when we spoke , when they asked for the information that i sent. Nothing was said about the information showing connection with the two. They were not planning to help and I think that is a bunch of crock.

Yes, we've talked to the "Billing Dispute" dept & the "Fraud" dept at BofA. We're waiting on a response to a recent dispute we filed (2nd attempt).

Simply WOW! I stumbled on this blog line while I was searching for the subject of this blog...Point Rental Liquidators, and I am simply shocked at the stories related, as they all parallel mine. Last January 2012 I too sat with my wife for a pleasant dinner with Willie Rios surrounded by others being sold on converting our points into cash, and to open that door was to buy into Sunset Harbor Resorts. It was all so professional, and made so much sense. We had other standing points that we didn't use and to be able to alleviate maintenance fees and taxes associated with our other vacation property this sounded perfect. Guess that sounds familiar to all reading this.

It took forever to get our Sunset Harbor deed, instead of 90 days, it was nearly 6 months. SH staff seemed incompetent, but finally received deed, and called SH to acknowledge the deed...and talked with what I called a bit of fresh air, Amanda, who had recently been hired and seemed like a real "mover and shaker" vs the other person who I had chatted with who reportedly was fired.

I then contacted PLR to start the conversion process, and asked some clarification questions as to the procedure to provide them my points to which I was told they were busy (think her name was Sarah) and they would get back with me to clarify the procedure. I also called good ol' Willie Rios numerous times never to speak with him, as all I got was a recording... I asked him to call me back.

I guess I have to say that I put the mess on back burner for a bit as I was a bit frustrated...then I again called PLR to get a recording that as of 8 Nov they had "dissolved" and to contact vactionrental.com. Now that was a shock. Called Willie...only "leave a message and I'll get back with you" message, no Willie--but his number is still active.

Then today I stumble on this blog line...

I contacted BoA Mastercard and got the instructions on how to send a dispute notice to them, which I certainly will, but it sounds as many of you have already done that with no help...I still owe them $8600 of the $9800 I charged. I also owe SH $180 in maintenance fees.

I WILL do anything else necessary to terminate this scam, and will do whatever the group thinks is necessary to get this group (PRL) erased...I simply can't believe that they are still alive and scamming even today.

Any new advice I sure would like to hear it...

tinak117 wrote:

Yes, we've talked to the "Billing Dispute" dept & the "Fraud" dept at BofA. We're waiting on a response to a recent dispute we filed (2nd attempt).

I've been lurking here since October 2012. Once I saw this thread, I immediately started trying to get my money back that we put on a credit card near the end of September. Finally, last week we got a letter from our Credit Card Company (CCC) that they had gotten the money back from SHR. PRL never got any monies directly and the other time-share company was nice enough to refund our money immediately as they seemed away of the PRL scam. Tomorrow, we close out the credit card accounts and are smarter for the most part now.

But, what a battle! At this point, we are contacting local news agencies to push for national coverage of these guys as well as the AG's of the states mentioned (including our own of Indiana). I'd like to see more victory stories.

I've been talking to a frequent poster of this site through emails and telling her step by step what we had gone through. It can be done. Just keep at it and annoy them to the point they are ready to throw in the towel. Most TV stations have something like a "Call for Help" line that they might send a reporter out to speak with you about the scam. Usually, they post it on their websites and you can call SHR or the others and tell them they are on the News! Bad publicity for places like that, is usually not good once it gets around to more than just one or two places.

Good Luck!

To Magepro1-- Yes I have sent a letter to everyone that I could to see if anyone would help. That means AG-Real estate divisions-RCI and no one has offered . The Texas real estate has been trying to help. Anyway my next thing to do is send a follow up letter to these agencies to inform them that I will be putting together a letter to send to TV stations and news papers and mentioning all the help ( none ) that I have gotten from them. It is a shame these decisions will not give any news coverage or anything to put a stop to people like BJ . I will keep every one posted as to what my result is.

magepro1 wrote:

But, what a battle! At this point, we are contacting local news agencies to push for national coverage of these guys as well as the AG's of the states mentioned (including our own of Indiana). I'd like to see more victory stories.

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I've been talking to a frequent poster of this site through emails and telling her step by step what we had gone through. It can be done. Just keep at it and annoy them to the point they are ready to throw in the towel.

Therein lies the answer .... never ever give up in seeing that all those involved are arrested and prosecuted and that your money is refunded by BOA.

My advice would be to NOT pay the CCC. That's your only leverage to get anybody to do anything. My parents paid the minimum payments for a few months, except for the time that BofA temporarily suspended interest charges & payments during times we were disputing the charges. We're in our 2nd dispute now, waiting for final answer.

Also, we did NOT pay maint. dues to SHR.

Was RCI membership supposedly included in your deal?

The funny thing was that SHR sent us a cheap copy of the deed and then a few weeks later, expected us to pay the Maint. Fee. Of course we didn't.

They did have us 're-do' our RCI membership (which we had planned on doing anyway) so it would include the points as well as a membership with VCI that we really didn't need. We quickly called RCI and had the account number changed. VCI understood that PRL was a scam and quickly agreed to wave needing to have SHR in order to use their services. But they also offered to refund us the $200 fee. We took that option.

Funny thing is, we keep getting robo calls and letters with a barcode on the top offering the same deal BJ's group did. I've spoken to a couple local stations that were interested in hearing our story more in depth as well as sneaking into one of these meetings. I am wondering what would happen if they took cameras into the restaurant to record their schpeel.

Man I just got A big fat check from PRL just last month the wife and I are going to Costa Rica for two weeks after we pay our maintenance fees. What a great company. Sorry everyone is having issues if you call and keep calling their HQ and your nice you might get some dead presidents as I did. Love it.

I guess Jamesj406 still believes in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny

jamesj406 wrote:

Man I just got A big fat check from PRL just last month the wife and I are going to Costa Rica for two weeks after we pay our maintenance fees. What a great company. Sorry everyone is having issues if you call and keep calling their HQ and your nice you might get some dead presidents as I did. Love it.

jamesj406 wrote:

Man I just got A big fat check from PRL just last month the wife and I are going to Costa Rica for two weeks after we pay our maintenance fees. What a great company. Sorry everyone is having issues if you call and keep calling their HQ and your nice you might get some dead presidents as I did. Love it.

Yeah right = shill ..... didn't someone say that when they tried to call PRL or BJ that a message stated that the company had disbanded ?????

jamesj406 wrote:

Man I just got A big fat check from PRL just last month the wife and I are going to Costa Rica for two weeks after we pay our maintenance fees. What a great company. Sorry everyone is having issues if you call and keep calling their HQ and your nice you might get some dead presidents as I did. Love it.

James,

I am an ex-employee of PRL. I don't know who you are or who you are trying to help but stop it. PRL dissolved as an entity on 10/8/12. I used to cut the checks. You didn't get one. This forum is trying to help each other find avenues to get some funds back and finally starting moving towards who actually has their money and means to give it back. All you're doing while trying to help is putting focas back onto PRL and not who took their money AND TOOK PRL's money. The last PRL payout check that went out was Sept 15th 2012 so you didn't get one last month. Don't try to help. You make PRL look stupid and like the bad guy again when this forum thread is FINALLY starting to figure out the merchant accounts and who really has their money. Go away James so these people can either cope, or stay focused on where their money is.

Hmmm, JamesJ must be joking. Any call to PRL is now a Disconnected number or a recording depending upon the time of day you call. Just getting a check from PRL is legally impossible right now. Sorry JamesJ406, but I think you are either joking or lying.

"What a great company." I'd wait to make sure the check doesn't bounce! If it doesn't, then there is yet another fraud issue and you are getting paid with someone else's money and not your 'investment.' In a nutshell, you are just as guilty as the fraudulent group of baboons associated with PRL, its sister companies and its parent company, R&R.

jamesj406 wrote:

Man I just got A big fat check from PRL just last month the wife and I are going to Costa Rica for two weeks after we pay our maintenance fees. What a great company. Sorry everyone is having issues if you call and keep calling their HQ and your nice you might get some dead presidents as I did. Love it.

This jamesj406 is a fake. If anyone remembers that I wrote I was going to attend a meeting in my area (Indiana) from Resort Notifications , well I did . What they do is get you out of timeshare maintenance by you paying a fee equal to a percentage of your time share to them , in my case around 6000.00 up front and I was guaranteed not to pay any more dues. Thanks but no thanks.

jamesv145 wrote:

This jamesj406 is a fake. If anyone remembers that I wrote I was going to attend a meeting in my area (Indiana) from Resort Notifications , well I did . What they do is get you out of timeshare maintenance by you paying a fee equal to a percentage of your time share to them , in my case around 6000.00 up front and I was guaranteed not to pay any more dues. Thanks but no thanks.

You are indeed correct ..... it was me ..... I often confuse Indiana with Illinois .... my bad.

jamesv145 wrote:

This jamesj406 is a fake. If anyone remembers that I wrote I was going to attend a meeting in my area (Indiana) from Resort Notifications , well I did . What they do is get you out of timeshare maintenance by you paying a fee equal to a percentage of your time share to them , in my case around 6000.00 up front and I was guaranteed not to pay any more dues. Thanks but no thanks.

If PRL has dissolved then how are they still setting up meetings .... it's all so confusing.

Went to another meeting last night sponsered by a Pathfinders Network. No preasure talk and the gift was a round trip for 2 on Southwest and a 2 night stay in a Marriot hotel . There is a fee of only 100.00 to set it up. All in All it was in my opinion a legit company. The people there knew BJ and stated he had lost a lot of weight - like skinny. Thats it for now I will keep everyone posted if I hear of anything else-Good luck to all .

Magepro, I live in Danville Indiana and we had our meeting in Planfield. Are we close to you? I would like to speak and work with others that were part of our group. When I talked to the restaurant manager he said they had a lot of people through there in the week they did the presentations.

warrens81 wrote:

Magepro, I live in Danville Indiana and we had our meeting in Planfield. Are we close to you? I would like to speak and work with others that were part of our group. When I talked to the restaurant manager he said they had a lot of people through there in the week they did the presentations.

Are you in the same business as PRL and BJ?