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I have not heard anything as of this date from Dr. Phil or our local NBC affiliate. However, I did print out the complaint form for Nevada and also Georgia, where we reside, to send to the AG. My husband will have them filled and ready for posting on March 1st. He is also going to make multiple copies of the complaints and mail them once a week until we hear something.
Sandra P.
i am willing to help if you get the media involved.. As I said.. I worked for them for quite a while and left the organization when I found out that the products were bogus.. I know the inner workings of what they did and how they did it.. Also. If you are going to start a mail campaign I would not only mail the vegas address.. But also mail to the Doctors express that the russell's opened in henderson nv. that will cause more discomfort for Guy and Nonna than mailing the sahara address.
Bob B.
Is everyone getting their complaint forms filled out and ready to mail Monday, March 4th? It also asks for copies of all your supporting documents to be mailed in, so get ready. Let's do this!
Here's the link to the complaint form (or search Nevada Attorney General) http://ag.state.nv.us/about/complaints/Complaint%20form%20LV%20AG.pdf
Tina K.
tinak117 wrote:Is everyone getting their complaint forms filled out and ready to mail Monday, March 4th? It also asks for copies of all your supporting documents to be mailed in, so get ready. Let's do this!Here's the link to the complaint form (or search Nevada Attorney General) http://ag.state.nv.us/about/complaints/Complaint%20form%20LV%20AG.pdf
Are you sure your sending the complaint to the write area. This forum saved Sunset Harbor. Who ran the money? Who has the money? Instead of going after the processor of the money all of you yokels are going after an entity that dissolved before any complaints filed were filed. They dissolved October 8th and that's public record. This actual forum thread saved Sunset Harbor. This kept the focus off of where the money actually was and on a joke company that an idiot 28 year old kid was talked into running as a "promotion" when all he did is ruin his name. JayJay and DonP, I'm sure if you post your addresses Sunset Harbor will send you each a $10k Christmas card for saving the resort by keeping focus on an entity that is closed and never processed money to begin with. DUH. Do you wonder why the AGs aren't doing anything? Because they see that PRL filed dissolution papers 10/8/12, they see they never had any money, and then the read the contract that all this brainiacs signed and their is nothing to do. Either accept your loss and more on or go after your actual money. Sunset Harbors goal in contributing to this forum was getting everyone to 6 months so they can't dispute cards as easy. Good job everyone and good luck with those letters. 49,000 letters wouldn't do anything against a dissolved LLC that was under the personal liability protection from Nevada. Bravo contributors. 33 pages of idiocy and manipulation that funneled everyone the wrong direction... Clap clap clap.
Jordan M.
Looks like BJ or one of his stooges got into the forum. Jordanm42 is trying to deflect the attention away from the principal scammers since the victims are now forming together to go after them. Keep up the pressure. Don't let the scammers devert you from your game plan. Go after them and see that they get brought to justice. Just because they formed an LLC doesn't mean that they are exempt from criminal charges. Apparently they are starting to feel the heat and trying to influence the posting in the room.
Everyone continue with the game plan and submit your complaints. Let the authorities sort out the facts and see who is responsible.
Don P.
Last edited by donp196 on Feb 28, 2013 03:34 PM
We also received a letter from Tom Turner. My husband called him and did have a conversation with him. He was very nice but unfortunately that did not help us get our money back. He said there is nothing to be done, all the monies are gone. Also that he and his partners had been victimized by these same people and lost millions of dollars to them. Said that he would keep us informed, we wont hold our breath, if anything new comes up. He did waive the yearly fee and told us he would be glad to have us visit the property, that it is a really nice property.
Sandra P.
donp196 wrote:Looks like BJ or one of his stooges got into the forum. Jordanm42 is trying to deflect the attention away from the principal scammers since the victims are now forming together to go after them. Keep up the pressure. Don't let the scammers devert you from your game plan. Go after them and see that they get brought to justice. Just because they formed an LLC doesn't mean that they are exempt from criminal charges. Apparently they are starting to feel the heat and trying to influence the posting in the room.Everyone continue with the game plan and submit your complaints. Let the authorities sort out the facts and see who is responsible.
What I do not understand is that Tom Turner evidently represents Sunset Harbor in Texas, so he must be an attorney. What behooves me is that he, as an attorney, and Sunset Harbor, as a resort, aren't taking the initiative to locate BJ and the other scammers involved with so much personal info about them in this thread.
Why hasn't a lawsuit been filed by Mr. Turner and Sunset Harbor against PRL, VSI and all it's associates. Also, there has been info in this thread concerning a new health clinic owner in Vegas that is connected with this scam and profited from it in order to start his clinic. This info has been clearly stated in this forum.
If a lawsuit is filed then a court date would be set where the scammers would be forced to appear in court or be arrested and jailed.
I honestly don't understand why PRL's and VSI's people have not been apprehended with all the info here in this very thread.
R P.
Last edited by jayjay on Mar 01, 2013 08:55 AM
Yep, with that many misspelled words and the name-calling, you know who wrote it. Well, anyway, my complaints will be filed against PRL and Sunset Harbor, for sure. I can see from the credit card statement that Sunset Harbor got the money. I guess we've all been funding a lot of blow for some junkie because the condo sure hasn't been using the money to fix up the place. It's got a pitiful rating on RCI. Is anyone else getting their AG complaint forms ready to mail on Monday?
Tina K.
jordanm42 wrote:Are you sure your sending the complaint to the write area. This forum saved Sunset Harbor. Who ran the money? Who has the money? Instead of going after the processor of the money all of you yokels are going after an entity that dissolved before any complaints filed were filed. They dissolved October 8th and that's public record. This actual forum thread saved Sunset Harbor. This kept the focus off of where the money actually was and on a joke company that an idiot 28 year old kid was talked into running as a "promotion" when all he did is ruin his name. JayJay and DonP, I'm sure if you post your addresses Sunset Harbor will send you each a $10k Christmas card for saving the resort by keeping focus on an entity that is closed and never processed money to begin with. DUH. Do you wonder why the AGs aren't doing anything? Because they see that PRL filed dissolution papers 10/8/12, they see they never had any money, and then the read the contract that all this brainiacs signed and their is nothing to do. Either accept your loss and more on or go after your actual money. Sunset Harbors goal in contributing to this forum was getting everyone to 6 months so they can't dispute cards as easy. Good job everyone and good luck with those letters. 49,000 letters wouldn't do anything against a dissolved LLC that was under the personal liability protection from Nevada. Bravo contributors. 33 pages of idiocy and manipulation that funneled everyone the wrong direction... Clap clap clap.
The dissolution of PRL has absolutely nothing to do with the theft and fraud that they inflicted upon their victims ..... everyone involved in that scam can be arrested and brought to trial .... you're dreaming if you think they can't.
R P.
tinak117 wrote:Yep, with that many misspelled words and the name-calling, you know who wrote it. Well, anyway, my complaints will be filed against PRL and Sunset Harbor, for sure. I can see from the credit card statement that Sunset Harbor got the money. I guess we've all been funding a lot of blow for some junkie because the condo sure hasn't been using the money to fix up the place. It's got a pitiful rating on RCI. Is anyone else getting their AG complaint forms ready to mail on Monday?
I'm honestly surprised that RCI still includes Sunset Harbor in their exchange system with all the controversy, scams, fraud and poor ratings concerning that resort .... perhaps someone needs to copy and paste this thread and send it to several top RCI officials .... you can google for contact info.
R P.
Last edited by jayjay on Mar 02, 2013 07:54 AM
jayjay wrote:jordanm42 wrote:Are you sure your sending the complaint to the write area. This forum saved Sunset Harbor. Who ran the money? Who has the money? Instead of going after the processor of the money all of you yokels are going after an entity that dissolved before any complaints filed were filed. They dissolved October 8th and that's public record. This actual forum thread saved Sunset Harbor. This kept the focus off of where the money actually was and on a joke company that an idiot 28 year old kid was talked into running as a "promotion" when all he did is ruin his name. JayJay and DonP, I'm sure if you post your addresses Sunset Harbor will send you each a $10k Christmas card for saving the resort by keeping focus on an entity that is closed and never processed money to begin with. DUH. Do you wonder why the AGs aren't doing anything? Because they see that PRL filed dissolution papers 10/8/12, they see they never had any money, and then the read the contract that all this brainiacs signed and their is nothing to do. Either accept your loss and more on or go after your actual money. Sunset Harbors goal in contributing to this forum was getting everyone to 6 months so they can't dispute cards as easy. Good job everyone and good luck with those letters. 49,000 letters wouldn't do anything against a dissolved LLC that was under the personal liability protection from Nevada. Bravo contributors. 33 pages of idiocy and manipulation that funneled everyone the wrong direction... Clap clap clap.The dissolution of PRL has absolutely nothing to do with the theft and fraud that they inflicted upon their victims ..... everyone involved in that scam can be arrested and brought to trial .... you're dreaming if you think they can't.
Oh okay JayJay. I don't think anyone knew your were so well versed in Nevada LLC law. Good to know.
Mop F.
I received my copy of the newsletter from Timesharing Today. They have an article about scammers that were prosecuted recently. They all worked for LLC comapnies. In one article 23 employees accepted plea deals and were sentenced from probation to five years in prison for their parts in the scam. They are testifying against the leaders who face a lot more time in prison. Just because the company is an LLC it doesn't give anyone immunity against criminal prosectution. Pick up a copy of this months Timesharing Today and read it for yourself.
Don P.
I have a question ref PRL and Sunset. Are RCI credit cards still being used to finance purchases? When I bought over a year ago, the financing was placed on an RCI credit card issued the day of the sale (obviously done to give legitimacy to the sale). In the course of my complaints, I and my attorney determined that if one "followed the money" the trail led to RCI. Both of use complained to RCI that use of its credit card to finance a timeshare purchase implied that RCI was providing the finan- cing for such purchase, contrary to statements by RCI that it did not sell timeshares. Top level RCI management orally informed me that RCI was not responsible for finance charges placed on its credit card. I replied that I would need this in writing, which RCI said it would do but it never did. Still soon after this Sunset called me and essentially caved and I closed my complaints against it and PRL. Of course I don't know if RCI ever pressured Sunset in my case. If, however, the RCI credit card is still being used in such situations I strongly urge complaints against it. In my case I and my attorney still think RCI's hands were not clean.
Theodore D.
Last edited by theodored7 on Mar 04, 2013 02:01 PM
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