point rental liquidators

Getting the Nevada Attorney General Complaint Forms ready to mail. It's taking a couple extra days because my mom's out of town, but I should be putting them in the mail Wednesday. Is anyone else doing it this week? We're trying to prove to the Nevada Attorney General that this is a definite pattern. Please file against Point Rental Liquidators AND Sunset Harbor Resorts.

glad to hear things are progressing.. I believe as of yesterday R&R Ventures now is going by R&R closing. It is also my understanding that RCI is hot on their trail.. one of the problems with them going after them is that this is a Federal issue because these teams go from state to state.. It's my understanding that RCI is aware and going after them.. I believe the pressure is really building on Guy and BJ and they are having a harder and harder time finding a rock to hide under. Also, the scam is still alive, under Excess Property Solutions I believe. Bad news is that since Jan 1 they have done another $3 million in fraudulent business. They are probably thinking this will blow over but when you are talking about over $30,000,000 in fraudulent revenue, My thoughts are that whatever govt entity is building a case is gonna wait until all is in place and the hammer will come down hard. There are dozens of ex-employees, ex-contractors, and other's that Grand Leisure Holidays (which I believe is still the parent LLC) and PRL or Excess have screwed over or burnt who are helping authorities and RCI put together a case,.

The newest part of their scam is they are calling people who they sold Sunset Harbor and PRL to and inviting them to an "RCI Update Meeting" where they are telling them that they are going to get them out of it and selling them a NEW SCAM taking advantage of these peoples bad situation ALL OVER AGAIN.. sick

On a positive note.. I also understand that the med clinic is doing poorly (probably because its a legitimate business and the Russell's dont know how to run one of those). I believe it will probably shut down soon.

theodored7 wrote:

I have a question ref PRL and Sunset. Are RCI credit cards still being used to finance purchases? When I bought over a year ago, the financing was placed on an RCI credit card issued the day of the sale (obviously done to give legitimacy to the sale). In the course of my complaints, I and my attorney determined that if one "followed the money" the trail led to RCI.

Anyone (timeshare owner or not) can apply for an RCI credit card (we had one and used it during our travels). RCI actually has nothing to do with who applies for their credit card .... RCI is merely an exchange company .... Bank of America is the finance backing for RCI credit cards.

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Both of us complained to RCI that use of its credit card to finance a timeshare purchase implied that RCI was providing the finan- cing for such purchase, contrary to statements by RCI that it did not sell timeshares. Top level RCI management orally informed me that RCI was not responsible for finance charges placed on its credit card.

If, however, the RCI credit card is still being used in such situations I strongly urge complaints against it. In my case I and my attorney still think RCI's hands were not clean.

Again, RCI has nothing to do with this scam ..... RCI credit cards are merely applied for by individuals .... in this case, you (in your name and evidently signed by you) after being advised by PRL and Sunset Harbor.

BTW, what did you tell Sunset Harbor in order for them to cave ..... most individuals that have posted here haven't been so lucky?

I have been reading the last pages of the this post w/PRL and Sunset Harbor and Monday received a call from wouldn't you know it , supposedly from RCI wanting to meet with us to discuss how to better use our timeshare,etc. ( Again we were caught up in the first scam end of Feb. 2012 and are trying to work our way out of that mess. We are not paying 2013 maintenance fees for Sunset. ) The RCI meeting was to be held in Milwaukee, WI @ Red Lobster Restaurant @76th and Greenfield on Tuesday I believe. I called RCI immediately and told them about the call and they said they are aware of the SCAM going across the states in the US. They needed more information they said. My other comment is that we too talked to Tom Turner in November I believe and he called back and told us there was nothing they could do. They too had been scammed by this group. I believe he told me he was a sales manager for Sunset Harbor. We also received a letter from Bill Mitchell stating the same and that they had grown just over 1,500 owners to 2,600 owners. 73% increase------and that they are beginning construction on another timeshare building this year. (I wondered with whose money did all this happen!!!) I filed with Texas and they said if any new info comes up please let them know. Bill Mitchell did respond to one letter sent to him by the Texas BBB. "our reputation has become seriously damaged by this group, R & R incl., and we are actively striving to enhance customer service for all new owners." I wrote back to BBB Texas and said this would not settle the complaint. Am filing w/Nevada Attorney General today. They need to be caught and put out of business.

Is everyone getting their Nevada Attorney General Complaint Forms ready to mail? Be sure to file against Sunset Harbor Resorts AND Point Rental Liquidators. According to my parents' credit card statement, SHR is the "merchant" that got their money, not PRL. Also, the manager at SHR admitted that they pay these "brokers" commissions for selling their timeshares.

tinak117 wrote:

Is everyone getting their Nevada Attorney General Complaint Forms ready to mail? Be sure to file against Sunset Harbor Resorts AND Point Rental Liquidators. According to my parents' credit card statement, SHR is the "merchant" that got their money, not PRL. Also, the manager at SHR admitted that they pay these "brokers" commissions for selling their timeshares.

Congrats Tina. You're the first person in 33 pages to FINALLY acknowledge who has the money and organized this debacle. Congrats on being smarter then dumb and dumber.

I agree. We need to write Nevada AG and file against PRL and Sunset Harbor. RCI stated that Sunset Harbor paid our 2014 RCI fees and also PRL Fees (Prl fees 498.00 were paid to Sunset Harbor Resorts according to our credit card bill in March 2012. So there's definitely a connection. Told Texas that when I filed against SHR.

PLEASE MAIL YOUR NEVADA ATTORNEY GENERAL COMPLAINT FORMS THIS WEEK!

Spoke to Tom Turner from SHR today! According to him, and he was not around when the PRL scam was going on, SHR was foreclosed on yesterday. SHR has no money (and I believe him), so trying to file a class action against them would be useless. They have no assets. The condos belong to folks like you and me but the corporate assets belong to the bank! Filing against PRL is probably also useless since they no longer exist and have probably hidden or sheltered any of the remaining scammed funds. Just my take on this. BTW, SHR was investigated by RCI and other law enforcement and found to be innocent of any involvement in the scam itself (other than hiring PRL).

Re: point rental liquidators scam - Robert Guy Russell & Brandon "B.J." Cooke If you want to get your money back....Go after Guy & Nonna Russell at R & R Medical Group, Henderson, NV ( Doctor's Express ) AND William "Bill" Redford @ Getaway Marketing AND B.J. Cooke at Grand Leisure Holidays, Las Vegas, NV. Do your Homework...I Did... Good luck everyone.

PS: The company "Getaway Marketing" is in Hiram, GA. This is the people that call you and tell you they are RCI and book all of us to go and give Guy Russell money....It's his company, Bill just works for him.

reynoldg wrote:

Spoke to Tom Turner from SHR today! According to him, and he was not around when the PRL scam was going on, SHR was foreclosed on yesterday. SHR has no money (and I believe him), so trying to file a class action against them would be useless. They have no assets. The condos belong to folks like you and me but the corporate assets belong to the bank! Filing against PRL is probably also useless since they no longer exist and have probably hidden or sheltered any of the remaining scammed funds. Just my take on this. BTW, SHR was investigated by RCI and other law enforcement and found to be innocent of any involvement in the scam itself (other than hiring PRL).

It's no shock that SHR has gone into foreclosure, however they hired PRL in the first place, so they are still accountable as is PRL. Just because a company or resort has gone into foreclosure doesn't mean the law can't go after them for fraud/scamming. Also, someone stated that the checks were made out to Sunset Harbor Resort, so they are not innocent by any means.

I believe that you file your complaints and give the authorities all the information and let them sort it out. PRL made the calls and set up the meetings. They traveled around the country with thier scam and got everyone to sign up. SHR was complicit in the scam and participated fully. They should both be held accountable. Keep up the pressure and it wouldn't hurt to send copies to all the elected officials in the state to apply some pressure to the Attorney General's office.

First of all, it's not a shock that people put info on here that don't have a clue, Sunset Harbor did not hire PRL, where are you getting your info? PRL was just made up one day by Robert Guy Russell and Brandon BJ Cooke. NOBODY hire anybody...Attorney General offices in 23 states are working together as of last week and they don't need any help from this forum. Everyone just sit back and watch....

Since you claim to know about the investigation. Where are you getting your information from ?

BJ Cooke Know as Brandon Cooke. GOOD LUCK LET ME KNOW IF YOU CONTACT ANY OF THEM i'VE STIFFED FOR OVER $16,000 FROM HIM THANK YOU .. FELL FREE TO CALL ME WITH ANY INFO 262-613-1265

My info is from the Attorney General offices in FL/NV/IL. & U.S. Marshall in NV/FL & RCI ..... Where are you getting your from?

My info is from the Attorney General offices in FL/NV/IL. & U.S. Marshall in NV/FL & RCI ..... Where are you getting your from?

donp196 wrote:

Since you claim to know about the investigation. Where are you getting your information from ?

If Florida is involved in the investigation then it will probably be handled properly. They have been the leader in cracking down on scammers and getting prison sentences for the principal players. This scam is too big for the authorities to ignore.

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reynoldg wrote:

Spoke to Tom Turner from SHR today! According to him, and he was not around when the PRL scam was going on, SHR was foreclosed on yesterday. SHR has no money (and I believe him), so trying to file a class action against them would be useless. They have no assets. The condos belong to folks like you and me but the corporate assets belong to the bank! Filing against PRL is probably also useless since they no longer exist and have probably hidden or sheltered any of the remaining scammed funds. Just my take on this. BTW, SHR was investigated by RCI and other law enforcement and found to be innocent of any involvement in the scam itself (other than hiring PRL).

It's no shock that SHR has gone into foreclosure, however they hired PRL in the first place, so they are still accountable as is PRL. Just because a company or resort has gone into foreclosure doesn't mean the law can't go after them for fraud/scamming. Also, someone stated that the checks were made out to Sunset Harbor Resort, so they are not innocent by any means.

When we purchased in Maine from "Dusty and Paula Lamb" we paid by check. The total price was $10,298. They had us write 1 check to Sunset Harbor Resort for $10,298. They said $9800 went to the resort and $498 of it went to PRL. Why didn't I write the check to PRL then? It almost makes sense what that previous poster said. Real smart on our part. We wrote a check and the money is gone. The AG office in Maine, Janet T Mills' office, told me that because PRL was dissolved that I could only go after the resort because that's who we paid and has our money. They also said that their records show PRL dissolved 11/8/12 and not 10/8/12 like a previous person said. 10 months in and we have written this off. I hope that resort is shut down soon. We feel like such idiots. Anyone else buy from Maine? Is it on the list?