point rental liquidators

Here's hoping that the foul, semi-literate (jordan?) never has children and, if he already has, that they are mercifully taken away by the state. We frankly need fewer demented, and morally bankrupt humans on this planet. Jordan and his gene pool contain the emotional equivalent of Drano. His parents obviously passed the gene on and now he and his offspring would be toxic to anyone they come into contact with. Go away, Jordan. You can't help yourself. You can only do harm to your fellow humans.

jordanm42 wrote:

tinak117 wrote:

Is everyone getting their complaint forms filled out and ready to mail Monday, March 4th? It also asks for copies of all your supporting documents to be mailed in, so get ready. Let's do this!

Here's the link to the complaint form (or search Nevada Attorney General) http://ag.state.nv.us/about/complaints/Complaint%20form%20LV%20AG.pdf

Are you sure your sending the complaint to the write area. This forum saved Sunset Harbor. Who ran the money? Who has the money? Instead of going after the processor of the money all of you yokels are going after an entity that dissolved before any complaints filed were filed. They dissolved October 8th and that's public record. This actual forum thread saved Sunset Harbor. This kept the focus off of where the money actually was and on a joke company that an idiot 28 year old kid was talked into running as a "promotion" when all he did is ruin his name. JayJay and DonP, I'm sure if you post your addresses Sunset Harbor will send you each a $10k Christmas card for saving the resort by keeping focus on an entity that is closed and never processed money to begin with. DUH. Do you wonder why the AGs aren't doing anything? Because they see that PRL filed dissolution papers 10/8/12, they see they never had any money, and then the read the contract that all this brainiacs signed and their is nothing to do. Either accept your loss and more on or go after your actual money. Sunset Harbors goal in contributing to this forum was getting everyone to 6 months so they can't dispute cards as easy. Good job everyone and good luck with those letters. 49,000 letters wouldn't do anything against a dissolved LLC that was under the personal liability protection from Nevada. Bravo contributors. 33 pages of idiocy and manipulation that funneled everyone the wrong direction... Clap clap clap.

I did receive a deed from sunset harbor

A old post everyone should read again from page 16

point rental liquidators (P.R.L.) or Excess Property Solutions (EPS) O.K... let me shine some light on P.R.L. and raise the veil:

P.R.L. (Point Rental Liquidators) was the brainchild of a man named Robert “Guy” Russell. He is a genius at devising plans to make a LOT of money in ways that many would consider immoral or possibly illegal, while trying to legally protect himself from liability. For years he has taught his sales teams to sell timeshare based on the idea that the client would be able to rent their ownership out and cover the cost as well as make money off of it. I know because I worked for him for a couple of years and was well aware of the inner workings of his organization. At first he owned a company called Global Destinations Consulting (GDC) but had to shut his doors because of a federal injunction from RCI. My understanding was that this injunction came about because he was putting “RCI PTS by GDC” on his caller I.D. and was using their company name, as well as telling timeshare owners that they were coming in for an “RCI update meeting”. My understanding of the outcome was that he was no longer supposed to run or own a timeshare sales and marketing company. So he temporarily teamed up with another, more legitimate company, but his greed got the best of him and they split ways. He then found the poor H.O.A. at Sunset Harbor Resort and they agreed to let him or his new company Grand Leisure Holidays (GLH), which is a subsidiary I believe of the Parent LLC R&R Venture group (which stands for Russell and Russell for he and his wife Nonna), sell their inventory. For anyone who does not know the HOA gets very little of the sales price of the timeshare, usually 5-25% of the sales price and the sales organization gets the remainder. This took place in late 2010, and since that point he and GLH have sold over $20,000,000 in timeshare. In the middle of 2011 he held a meeting in Las Vegas to train his sales teams on a new program VSI that they were going to make mandatory on every sale because V.S.I. has certain benefits and can help owners recoup some cost. Now V.S.I. to my knowledge is tightly run and legitimate. Most of the problems that they have are a result of how outside brokers (primarily GLH teams) inflate what they can do. This is where everything took a turn for the worse. Guy decided why pay someone else $498 per deal when he could be making that money. So he reached out to one of his salesmen B.J. Cooke and partnered up create P.R.L. (Now I am pretty sure that neither Guy & Nonna Russellare on the company paperwork but if you look them up the office is at 6132 w Sahara in Las Vegas where his companies are located) and if you follow the money you will see that he makes roughly half of the money that comes into PRL. They knew when this was set up that they did not have the ability to rent out the timeshare but figured if anyone ever had a real complaint they could send them a check and they would still be ahead. They also were very careful on how the contract was worded, and for those of you who purchase, you understand that what you were told and what the contract said were two different things. Now, from my understanding, Guy has burnt Sunset Harbor and left them holding the bag with all of these ticked off clients wanting their rental checks and has moved on to sell other inventory. It is my understanding that they have closed PRL now (again this is my understanding) and have opened a new company, Excess Property Solutions (EPS). Sunset Harbor is not the first HOA that he has done this to and if nothing is done they will not be the last. Here are a few points I want to make: 1. PRL is/was a scheme, and I am sure EPS will be also 2. If anyone from RCI is reading this Guy is still having his marketing companies use “RCI PTS by GLH”, “RCI PTS by SHR”, or “RCI PTS by RR” on the caller i.d. and inviting owners to an “RCI update meeting”. You can verify this by searching one of the above phrases on the internet. 3. Guy and Nonna have taken the millions that they have made to open an urgent care med clinic in Las Vegas. 4. It is hard to trace their involvement, for obvious reasons. He had a salesmen of his, William “Bill” Redford set up Redford Getaway enterprises as a marketing company out of Hiram Ga. And BJ Cooke set up PRL. Along with this they often sell using an alias, Bill goes by Paul Young, and when Guy was actually selling he told clients his name was Ryan Roberts. 5. The company(s) address is 6132 W. Sahara Las Vegas NV, 89146. Guy and Nonna are at 2909 Sterling Cove dr, Las Vegas NV 89128 if you want to mail a complaint or you can call them at 210-386-7339 (Guy) or 210-326-9570 (Nonna). 6. Sunset Harbor is NOT a part of the scheme, simply a bystander which stands to take the brunt of the complaints and problems that arise from PRL, because of the way it was sold. 7. The people who are posting positively about PRL are, with 100% certainty, employees and salesmen. As a matter of fact, I recognized one of the handles as a salesmen of PRL and GLH. My final observation: It truly is much like organized crime. You have one center character calling the shots and the people and teams under him pulling the trigger. I know that there are A.G.’s in a handful of states trying to find out more about them. That being said, many of the “trigger men” don’t even realize the full picture of what is going on, much as I didn’t. I got out when I realized things weren’t right and suffered financially for my “betrayal”. But I can sleep at night knowing that I am trying to make amends, and hopefully this post will be helpful to many of you out there.

jordanm42 wrote:

This actual forum thread saved Sunset Harbor. This kept the focus off of where the money actually was and on a joke company that an idiot 28 year old kid was talked into running as a "promotion" when all he did is ruin his name. JayJay and DonP, I'm sure if you post your addresses Sunset Harbor will send you each a $10k Christmas card for saving the resort by keeping focus on an entity that is closed and never processed money to begin with. DUH.

DUH, what I've said all along numerous times in this thread is that Sunset Harbor is as culpable as PRL .... perhaps you need to go back to school and take a course in reading comprehension.

I can't see any management company taking over SHR with it's reputation, legacy and the mess they've caused by entering into an agreement with an unknown, non proven entity = PRL.

It seems as though boobier and bobb749 have all the answers . Would one of you let me know how J&L Platinum Marketing went to R&R venture and when this happened ?

Thanks for re-posting. I had not seen this before.

You and everyone should call RCI and ask for the Legal Department, Give them your Name, date & contract number and ask to be added to the PRL/R&R Venture Group list. As of last week they have almost 300 names that have been scammed on it. They will tell you what to do next. RCI and the AG's from many states are going after Guy Russell, Nonna Russell, Brandon "B.J." Cooke & William "Bill" Redford with everything they have. Good Luck.

TO BOOBIER--Do you know what AG from what states are working on this?? What is the Ph# of RSI legal department?

boobier wrote:

You and everyone should call RCI and ask for the Legal Department, Give them your Name, date & contract number and ask to be added to the PRL/R&R Venture Group list. As of last week they have almost 300 names that have been scammed on it. They will tell you what to do next. RCI and the AG's from many states are going after Robert Guy Russell, Nonna Russell, Brandon "B.J." Cooke & William "Bill" Redford with everything they have. Good Luck.

Very good information .... everyone that's been scammed by SHR and PRL please follow the directions posted by boobier above.

wow- interesting they went into foreclosure March and we just rec'd another 2013 maintenance fee bill dated Mar. 1, 2013, ??this time for $84.00 (may incl. 10% late fee it states) instead of the ORIGINAL $97.50 billed Dec. ??????????.. PAST DUE and pay now to avoid collection action and a negative mark on our credit. HELP How about a negative mark on their credit!!!!

2012 maintenance fees were a headache when they tried to bill us 3x for the same fees and we had already pd. them in April. SHR hadn't rec'd them and finally called Vegas and Lisa told me they were paid??????? and round and round we went. We had our proof of payment, but I felt I was calling every three months to say the are PAID! Would I want this to happen again. No thank you.

I've been waiting 8 months to be able to post this news. My parents finally received credits from Bank of America for every cent they had paid toward their credit card for the$9500 charge from Sunset Harbor Resorts including any interest and fees!!!!!!!

Call the main phone number and ask for the email address for the legal department and they will call you back, remember to put your Name, Date of sale, Contract Number, Name of the resort and your phone number. If you put the names Guy Russell, Nonna Russell, William "Bill" Redford & Brandon "B.J." Cooke they will know what to do.

TO: euniced6 Remember, the person your talked to named Lisa does not and never did work for Sunset Harbor. She works only for Guy Russell & Nonna Russell, they are the owners of R & R Venture Group, PRL, Getaway Marketing, R&R Medical Group & R&R Closing. Everyone else, ei: Brandon "B.J." Cooke, William "Bill" Redford & Matt Johnson for for them.

To tinak117 Good for you and your parents. That's good news.

This is the company that everyones money went to. Guy Russell & Nonna Russell (owners of R & R Venture Group, PRL, Getaway Marketing, R&R Medical Group & R&R Closing) I called the main office of Doctor's Express and was told that they would look at any wrong doing of a Franchise. The guy that runs Doctors Express in Henderson, NV for the Russell's is, you guessed it R&R Ventures accountant, Matt Johnson

TO boobier and bobb749B It seems as though boobier and bobb749 have all the answers . Would one of you let me know how J&L Platinum Marketing went to R&R venture and when this happened ? Also what AG from what states are trying to help?? I think it was one of you that statyed how much the scammers have already sold this year alone is this true and how did you find this out?

To jamesv145 As far as my source could find out, J&L Platinum Marketing never worked with PRL. But she did tell me that sales group worked with Robert Guy Russell many years ago. Before R&R Ventures. Did you ever go to a meeting with J&L Platinum Marketing? Hope that helps.

To jamesv145 AG's that are working with this case. Alabama (AL) Arizona (AZ) California (CA) Florida (FL) Georgia (GA) Illinois (IL) Indiana (IN) Iowa (IA) Kentucky (KY) Maine (ME) Michigan (MI) Minnesota (MN) Missouri (MO) Montana (MT) Nevada (NV) Ohio (OH) Pennsylvania (PA) South Carolina (SC) Tennessee (TN) Texas (TX) Virginia (VA) Wisconsin (WI)

I'm so glad I found this forum. We bought a crappy timeshare at Fisherman's Cove. The salesman's last name was Gilliand. It was the same thing that if we bought another timeshare they would get us into a rental program to offset cost. They used a company called RSI in Virginia. Sure enough 4 months passed and then no one answers the phone. Then it turned into over a year. I've been dealing with the Texas Real Estate Commission "TREC" and they said they are building a case against the developer William Mitchell. When I googled his name I saw he is the developer of Fisherman's Cove and Sunset Harbor. That lead me here. He actually does the same thing out of both resorts. By about the 33rd page I about threw up over the consistencies. What a joke. Whatever sells crap resorts in Texas. He knows what is beind said at these presentations and he either tells them to do it or turns his back so they can. I am going to search for other Fisherman's cove purchasers to give this information to.

Anyone else deal with Fisherman's Cove people?

This is outstanding news, Tina. Ihave been following this forum just to see how you fared. Thankfully, we backed out of this scam but it broke my heart to think of your folks and, indeed, all of the victims. We came so close to being victims too.