Tele Teton Corporation

I'm so glad to have found all this information about World Wide Global Funding and First Financial Capital. We've had the exact same scenario! Last November we received a blind call from a Mr. Gabriel Harding from World Wide Global Funding, sayng they had a "pre-qualified" buyer for our Hawaiian Timeshare. His telephone number was (352) 414-5915. By November 7th, we had reached agreement on the terms and conditions, signed a Sales Agreement, and negotiated our pre-paid "Closing Costs" as $900 (marked down from the originally requested $1800.) Unfortunately, we were dumb enough to pay this! As others have mentioned, we are no longer able to contact anyone at World Wide Global Funding. No matter which of their phone numbers we dial, we end up getting the same recording that they are closing for the year-end holidays, and can be reached after January 2nd. Where are they now?

Fast forward to early January. We got another blind call from a Robert Chaves (aka Harris or Chapman or Dawson) from First Financial Capital in Wilmington DE. Same phone number (302-332-6783) but different last name. (My wife swears she recognizes Robert's voice from some prior Time Share sale mis-adventure.!) Same line of patter as reported elsewhere. " First Financial is a Loan Companay that is processing our Time Share sale, and has set the Closing Date in mid-March." First Financial sent us a Contract to sign and fund, to the tune of $2900. Their contract varied greatly from the Sales Agreement we had previously negotiated with World Wide Global Funding, but when we wanted to clarify and/or change their Contract, Robert balked. He also wanted the $2900 in up-front money to be sent ASAP by wire transfer to their First Financial Recovery account at Sun Trust Bank. Fortunately, we have not sent any money to them, nor will we anytime soon! The email address used by First Financial Capital is: clients@firstfinancialtoday.com. We're still awaiting a final Contract revision and telephone call from Robert and his "legal staff". Knowing what I know now, I'm liable to tell Robert what he can do with his contract!

During the past three years, we have "invested" more than $9,000 with nine different Time Share sellers, all of whom have turned out to be dishonest scoundrels like Robert. It seems to us that a Class Action Law Suit against all these rip-off artists is long overdue. How does one go about making this happen? We would certainly be interested in supporting such a cause.

A good start would be to report them to the Attorney-General of the state in which they're located.

I have had the samething happen to me in Aug/Sept 2011. Tele Teton contacted me, Said they had a buyer for my property. Long story short, I paid them by check $1985.00 and said they would keep in touch with me when it was time for the closing. I did get 3 emails from them giving me short updates ever 3-4 weeks. I tried to call them around the Dec 2011 time frame and the phone number was not in service. The first part of this year I started calling the BBB and FTC to report them. I have now received a call from a Bank saying they want to close on this property and I need to send ythem 2366.12 for Doc. Stamp tax on this property. The guys name was also, Robert Chapman. Just hours ago he has sent me a contract agreement from First Financial Capital and wanted me to send this back ASAP. When I question him on this, He got quite irritable. He then told me, he was doing me a favor by calling me and I could take it or leave it. I asked him what about the other money I had paid Tele Teton. He said he didn't know anything about them or the money I had paid in. I sure hope these guys can be stopped.

Once they got you on the hook they keep bleeding you until you run out of money. They have you on the sucker list. They will keep trying to get more money out of you. Don't send them anymore money. Print out all of the emails and give them to the Attorney General along with your complaint.

Just a warning shout out to you all, I do believe they are now giving all of our numbers ( the stupid of us who paid, sorry I was one) to a new scam to get a lower rate on your high balance credit cards. Beware, the guy who called me sounded just like Brian Moore from TeleTetron, I swear. I told him thanks, but no thanks he scammed me once and not again--he hung up on me. Beware they are called Card Services.

I reported Robert Harris and First Financial to the Attorney General's office in DE, complete with copies of emails, phone numbers and names.....Waited a few weeks and then I received a copy of their letter to Robert Harris. They told him about my complaint, asked for his response, and said that they realized that most complaints were baseless. Great. I doubt that anything will be done. Meanwhile, he and his group are continuing to scam people and pocket who know how many thousands of dollars?? I contacted an attorney and mentioned a class action suit but didn't get much of a reaction. Has anyone got any other ideas on how to stop these scum??

Last spring Robert Harris (assuming he is the same guy, and I am sure that he is) was the one who operated under the same name and the head of Redline Funding...one and the same as Teleteton. They take our money, shut down whatever they are known as at the time, and start up as another company. I am surprised that he was 'contacted", as they usually are one step ahead of all of us. Interesting!! Boy, that is comforting to know that the Attorney Generals office made such a statement in their letter to them that they acknowledge that most complaints are baseless. Wow...doesn't seem like anyone can bank of them being of any help. Maybe I should send DE Attorney General all of the info I have already sent to the Michigan and the Wyoming Attorney Generals office when they were operating as Redline Funding. I wonder if they would even see the connection that we all see.

Yes, Janet, I think it would be a good idea if you would also send what you have to the DE Attorney General's Office. The more of us who send the same onto, the better!

I was also contacted contacted by Exchange International, Ms Morgan Summers with the telephone number 877-833-0885 X5414, and she referenced Resort Advocacy Law.com as referring Exchange International. Yes they are supposedly located at 230 Lookout Place, Suite 200, Maitland, FL 32751, but then so is the law firm. Same address, differnt Suite. I did provide a credit card for the $289, but called back the next day and cancelled. that was a month ago, and haven't heard anything from them since. Also, no funds were charged to my credit card. They also made mention of an Allison Tate. Watch out for this group also.

Robert, Just to let you know, the names that they use are either old dead actors or actresses, or names used in movies. Nome of them are their real names.

Received another call today, this time from California 619-333-2454. Told me she had a gauranted sale for my Fairfield Property. Needless to say it's not even called Fairfield anymore. This one needs a little more training I guess. I just laughed and hung up. I really don't understand why the authorities can't track these people down and arrest them.

Calculating and Filing Casualty and Theft Losses Casualty and theft losses are miscellaneous itemized deductions that are reported on IRS Form 4684, which carries over to the Schedule A, then to the 1040 form. Therefore, in order for any casualty or theft loss to be deductible, the taxpayer must be able to itemize deductions. If this is not possible, then no loss can be claimed. If you have a signed contract, then it is a theft loss. It's debatable for the selling price of only the front money.

Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/taxes/08/itemized-deduction.asp#ixzz1lzZtCIyQ

gloriaw29 wrote:

Received another call today, this time from California 619-333-2454. Told me she had a gauranted sale for my Fairfield Property. Needless to say it's not even called Fairfield anymore. This one needs a little more training I guess. I just laughed and hung up. I really don't understand why the authorities can't track these people down and arrest them.

The Florida attorney general IS taking action against upfront fee resale scammers .... I don't know about other states, but if the scammers are not reported then no action can be taken.

Here's an update to my previous posting in January. It shows just how far these shysters will go to try to make a buck! On January 25th, I called Mr. Robert "Chapman" of First Financial Capital, and told him we were not interested in his services. I also told him where he could put his contract.

Surprisingly, on February 1st, I received a phone call from Robert "Chapman," saying that the next day I would receive a phone call from a "Los Angeles Attorney", who would put all our concerns to rest, and who would facilitate in completing our pending Timeshare Sale. Sure enough, the next morning we received a call from someone calling himself Jack H. Moore, Esq., who promised to "get the job done" for us. He said he had received all of our previous paperwork from Robert Chapman, and was ready to proceed to close the sale. He reiterated that the buyers had already paid their down payment, and were anxious to proceed. He said that he had just emailed the sales contract to us for our review and signature, and would call us back in half an hour to see if we had any questions. Or we could call him back at (213) 841-8757 (this is a Los Angeles area code.)

While waiting for his email, we researched the Los Angeles Office of the California State Bar Association. Sure enough, they had a listing for Moore, John H., from Chula Vista CA. Mr. Moore joined the Bar in June 1912, and is listed as deceased! We also had our daughter, who works in Los Angeles, call the phone number given by "Jack H. Moore". As soon as she asked to speak with Attorney Jack H. Moore, whom ever answered the phone immediately hung up. The "Contract" emailed by "Jack H. Moore" was basically the same as the previous contract received from First Financial Capital, but this time it was on a different Letterhead: Vacation Options America Your #1 Source for Settlement and Closing; 601 S. Figueroa St. Suite 4050 Los Angeles CA 90017. Ofice: (877) 333-5162, FAX: (877) 702-0992 www.vacationoptionsamerica.com email: processing@vacationoptionsamerica.com

Although this contract was esentially the same as the one previously received from First Financial Capital, the names of the alleged Buyers were not the same, and it still contained several of the same errors that we had previously tried to correct with Robert "Chapman'. However, the new contract still demanded the same old "up front" fee of $2,900.00, for Document/Stamp Tax Fees & Legal Recording Fee!

Also included was a RECOVERY FORM, which authorized Vacation Options America to attempt to recover all the fees we have previously paid to other non-performing shysters who took our money and did nothing.

We obviously did not sign and fax back the Contracts, as requested! We were, however, prepared to jump all over "Mr. Moore, Esq.", should he ever call us back! Sure enough, he did call once more. When my wife answered the call, our caller got so flumexed that he asked if "Mr. Moore" was there, completely forgetting that he was Mr. Moore! Recognizing his goof, he immediately hung up, and we haven't heard from him - or anyone else from that particuclar scam - since.

This all goes to show the great lengths that these professional scammers will go to. There's got to be some coordinated way to put these folks away!

We submitted all our information to http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx in the hopes that they can contact the correct agencies to stop these scammers. I would encourage everyone in this thread to do the same.

I've discovered that Worldwide Global Funding and First Choice Propert Funding are two names for waht appears to be the same scam company. they didn't even bother to change much of the content of the webpages. I've contacted the Florida BBB and AG as well as the MI AG. Just to get some naames out there for others researcging this scam I've dealt with an Alex Wells, Damiels Bass, and Arabella Simon. Other names found on teir websites are Richard Lawton & James Dunnegan. And they use the same addresses Corporate Headquarters

805 Oakley Seaver Blvd Suite # 223 Clermont, FL 34711

Finance Division 13900 County Road 455 Suite # 107-314 Clermont, FL 34711

In doing some research I have found that Anthony Gladieux President of this company is from Clermont Fl. Via mylife.com. There are at least 7 businesses around this scam artist. I have tracked him to 15933 Old Highway 50 Clermont Fl. There seems to be another false business from this address. The websites are all down but you will find the number on the BBB page along with the LLC page for the other businesses. I hope the State Attorney General calls my back soon. I will personally come to Fl from Texas to watch this Jerk fry.

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