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donp196 wrote:Tina you should file a complaint with the attorney general in your state in reference to seniors getting scammed. Most states have laws specifically about ripping off senior citzens. Theses scammers like BJ have to be stopped. Everytime he posts his lies in here we will be right behind him warning people about his scam. One thing you can be assured is everytime one of these scam artists open their mouths they are lying. Jayjay, Lance and myself have nothing to gain by warning people. These scammers make their livings ripping people off with their never ending lies. If you notice they rant on an on trying to convince people to part with their hard earned money. I will out last BJ and his band of thieves.
Yes, tina should report PRL's scam to the Texas Attorney General .... tina, you can do this online.
R P.
brandonj19 wrote:Tina,PRL doesn't have salesmen. Those two men sold inventory for Sunset Harbor Resort. PRL doesn't have reps or sell their program. It is an add-on that several resorts use. Those gentlemen would not have represented themselves as PRL. They would have given business cards for either their broker name or Sunset Harbor. If this has been misunderstood this is all the more reason for this client to be get satisfied. Versus going spending more money to go through an attorney, email me their full name and client number and I will be happy to take care of their refund on my end as I deal with that resort on a day to day basis. They or PRL don't make a habit of keeping someone in something that they don't want to be. I have no doubt if they waited the program out that they and you would be happy but it sounds like we are way passed that. We can process refund and send out forms to release the deed back. Please email me client # or first and last names and I'll get the ball rolling asap. Send it to info@pointrenalliquidators.com. Have a good day.
-BJ Cooke
You say, PRL doesn't have salesmen .... then why are you contacting people for some kind meeting in a restaurant to get them purchase your program .... of course PRL have salesmen.
R P.
tinak117 wrote:If Hughes Dewailly and Pat Thompson don't work directly for PRL or SHR or RCI, who do they work for? They didn't give out business cards. They hand-wrote their names & numbers on a piece of paper for my parents. Have you ever heard of these guys? They are definitely not doing anything to enhance the reputation of PRL or SHR or RCI, that's for sure!
That's more than likely not their real names .... they change names like they change scams.
R P.
Mr Cooke, if that's even your real name ..... you might find below interesting:
American Resort Development Association Consumer Advisory on Resale Companies WASHINGTON, D.C. (May 11, 2012) Based on communications with numerous timeshare owners, ARDA cautions consumers on a new scam targeting timeshare owners.
It begins with the timeshare owner receiving a phone call inviting them to attend an industry update at a local locationoften a Perkins restaurant. The person is met by a representative of Vacation Services International (VSI) who tells the timeshare owner that ARDA has enlisted VSI to assist timeshare owners who have complaints with one or more of the industry exchange companies. While the story varies slightly from owner to owner, VSI will usually offer help or provide a way out of timeshare ownership for a fee. The sales pitch at one Wisconsin location was made by an individual claiming to be B.J. Cooke.
At the in-person presentation, the following offers have been made to timeshare owners:
An offer to allow owners to convert their timeshare for points that can be converted into exchange opportunities or even cash. The company that would perform this service is Point Rental Liquidators. An offer to purchase a timeshare at Sunset Harbora timeshare resort located on Lake Conroe in Texas. An offer was also made to purchase a timeshare in the Fishermans Cove Resort, which has yet to be built. Another timeshare owner attended a sales presentation made by Jean Hamilton of HP Consultants. Hamilton claimed that she works with ARDA as a consultant to help solve the industry-wide overbooking problem. HP Consultants offered to buy his timeshare and then sell him an $11,995 membership in a club that would give him, his family, and his friends the unlimited use of timeshares forever. Again, ARDA has nothing to do with this company or this salesperson and questions the legitimacy of this offer based on the alleged representations made during the sales presentation.
If you are contacted to attend an update of any kind, be warned that you will likely be attending a sales presentation and one that could possibly be a scam. The same is true if a telemarketer (or a request you receive by mail) asks you to attend any type of in-person presentation related to selling, renting, or transferring your timeshare. If you have any doubt, please contact ARDA, your exchange company (e.g. RCI or Interval International), the developer who sold you your timeshare, or the company who manages your resort for help.
ARDA does not endorse, authorize, or work with third parties to solicit timeshare owners. If a company tells you that ARDA sent them or ARDA endorses us or you see it on a website or billboard, it is not true. ARDA does not possess or have access to any timeshare owners name or contact information. Contact us directly by email at customerservice@arda.org or call our toll-free number (855) 416-6187 before you do anything with a company or individual who claims to be affiliated with or working on behalf of ARDA. Please visit www.arda-roc.org for more information.
R P.
We were approached with this group at a Perkins Restaurant end of February. WE have yet to receive our deed to Sunset Harbor Resorts (Five months later), hear from PRL w/it's promises, saw the office in Las Vegas??????, did not want to talk to us, BJ Cooke did finally call after they told him we were there. Since then no correspondence either by Vegas office or BJ or as stated in first part of this posting.
Eunice D.
Jayjay, Help me here. I guess I am missing something. That explains that people are marketed out to attend an update meeting. They then mentioned some entities. Lastly they say that they don't endorse any third party resale or rental companies. I HAVE COVERED THIS 5 TIMES. I am proud of you that you can copy and paste. Great work. But you're getting an "F" for interpretation. If your goal is to show that ARDA doesn't sponsor 3rd party rental and resale companies then good work. You nailed it. They probably do send sponsor RCI though... A company that had a class action suit against them in 2009 due to poor availability and the fact that they were taking weeks that should have been going into exchange and renting them out or selling them to vacation clubs. Ever wonder how you can't get an exchange into Hawaii but you can buy an extra week through RCI website for $1300? At least the fees are consistent. They've only went from $79/$99 per evchange to $194 in 2012. Then if your kids want to use it a guess fee is $59.95. And a yearly enrollment is $89. Now they have mandatory credits program for weeks owners. They charge you if you need more, charge you to combine for 1 reservation, and still have the normal fees listed before. These guys on this forum make it a point to warn everyone from these awful guy like me that sent out 17 checks on Friday ranging $2450-$12750 while my people are using VSI to get an exchange or booking WITHOUT EXCHANGE OR GUEST FEES. There is a reason that RCI has a second lawsuit brewed up now and why you won't see an owner of ours that waits it out for the initial 9 months complain. We got something figured out here. JayJay congrats. I looked on another forum and found where you have sold your timeshare for a little bit here and there. That's great work beings that people can't get rid of them for $1 and even pay acquisition companies $1500-$5000 per deed to TAKE them. Those poor people that bought your's.... Maybe there is a "scammer" on this forum. Please actually stop petting your 16 cats and read the forum before you post about my company again.
Brandon J C.
Those are their real names. If you used white pages and looked them up you'd find them. They were a broker. They buy inventory and sell it secondary market. They were just selling Sunset Harbor with a PRL option add-on. Again, Tina if your lawyer sent a letter I didn't hear of it yet. If you email me names I can fix it. I almost wonder if you are a competitor and not really a person with a problem. Your stories of the way it played out is not AT ALL consistent with our layout/practices, and the only "wanna-be" competitor that tries to make trouble for us used to work for Hughes Dewailley. I've said you will get refunded 4 times if you email yet never an email. Just like the haters on here that don't want to learn how it works. They just, unsuccessfully, try to pick it apart. If your real Tina, email me.
BJ Cooke bjcooke61341@yahoo.com
Brandon J C.
Jay jay, PRL is an add on program that several resorts use. They don't market people or do sales. Resorts do that. HENCE, THEY DON'T HAVE SALESMEN! Pay attention maybe you'll learn something. And my name isn't BJ Cooke. It's Brandon Jon Cooke. I just prefer "BJ"... Never cared for the name Brandon.
-BJ COOKE
Brandon J C.
These scammers never stop. The more they rant the more they push their lies. Don't get involved with them and you won't lose any money. It's a scam plain and simple. It's all smoke and mirrors. I will continue to warn people to avoid these scams. Keep posting your lies BJ. We will be right behind you every day refuting your lies.
Don P.
brandonj19 wrote:Jayjay, Help me here. I guess I am missing something. That explains that people are marketed out to attend an update meeting. They then mentioned some entities. Lastly they say that they don't endorse any third party resale or rental companies. I HAVE COVERED THIS 5 TIMES. I am proud of you that you can copy and paste. Great work. But you're getting an "F" for interpretation. If your goal is to show that ARDA doesn't sponsor 3rd party rental and resale companies then good work. You nailed it. They probably do send sponsor RCI though... A company that had a class action suit against them in 2009 due to poor availability and the fact that they were taking weeks that should have been going into exchange and renting them out or selling them to vacation clubs. Ever wonder how you can't get an exchange into Hawaii but you can buy an extra week through RCI website for $1300? At least the fees are consistent. They've only went from $79/$99 per evchange to $194 in 2012. Then if your kids want to use it a guess fee is $59.95. And a yearly enrollment is $89. Now they have mandatory credits program for weeks owners. They charge you if you need more, charge you to combine for 1 reservation, and still have the normal fees listed before. These guys on this forum make it a point to warn everyone from these awful guy like me that sent out 17 checks on Friday ranging $2450-$12750 while my people are using VSI to get an exchange or booking WITHOUT EXCHANGE OR GUEST FEES. There is a reason that RCI has a second lawsuit brewed up now and why you won't see an owner of ours that waits it out for the initial 9 months complain. We got something figured out here. JayJay congrats. I looked on another forum and found where you have sold your timeshare for a little bit here and there. That's great work beings that people can't get rid of them for $1 and even pay acquisition companies $1500-$5000 per deed to TAKE them. Those poor people that bought your's.... Maybe there is a "scammer" on this forum. Please actually stop petting your 16 cats and read the forum before you post about my company again.
ARDA specifically mentions your name and your company, JB Cooke, duh. Talk about not interpreting. And you have never answered about the PRL salesmen that charged $9000 on tina's parents' credit card.
You say that your company doesn't sell anything .... that's an outright lie .... you set up meetings at restaurants and when you find a sucker to buy into your program money changes hands .... that's selling .... look up the word in the dictionary.
R P.
Last edited by jayjay on Jul 24, 2012 09:00 AM
BJ, I was waiting for our lawyer to give me permission to email you a copy of his letter. I have emailed it to the address you posted on this site. You should have already received the one that was mailed via US certified mail because it was sent out Friday 7/13/12.
Yes, I am real, and the "story" about my parents' encounter with Hughes Dewailly and Pat Thompson, unfortunately, is accurate. While we all might wish liars and cheaters didn't go around tricking elderly people, it's a fact. If they had a timeshare to sell, they should just lay out all the facts and let the people decide if they like the deal and want to buy it, but instead, they have to lie to get people to buy into a dump like Sunset Harbor Resort. Evidently, that's the only way Sunset Harbor can sell their units.
Tina K.
Jayjay, Yes I did answer that. PRL doesnt have salesman thus didn't put any money on Tina's parents card. How could a rental company get RCI CC instant approval ability as only resorts get those? Or how could a rental company be able to get Merchant accounts with abilities to run $9000 transactions? Are we past you and your tiger buddy's know-it-all perimeters and into unknown territory? They were Brokers for sunset Harber. PRL is a rental points buyback program. There is nothing to pay $9000 for. The $9000 they paid is for a deed at a resort. We dont sell that. So please try to read English again, PRL doesn't have sales reps in the field. My name is mensioned because I am listed as the corporate manager and I sometimes go out in the field to visit the offsite sales of the several different resorts that use our product and I will mingle with people when I do so. I have been to a Perkin's once in 4 years. Stupid ARDA got one confused warning of one stupid and confused presentation taker and then put up a buyer beware thing on their website like hillbillies. One complaint and now its "several" when I'm very rarely on the road and been to Perkins one time. They write it like these meetings are usually at Perkins? The Kickin Chicken isn't that good. You can tease at my "interpretation" of arda letter as you have definitely surprised me with lack of intelligence of your's... All it says is VSI representatives, which would be like calling a Wyndham salesman RCI representatives, said they were talking to people on behalve of ARDA. Yeah okay. Never happened. They don't need ARDAs glorious name to get business. Quick recap there chachi, just so you don't ask again since apparently reading isn't your thing, PRL doesnt have salespeople. VSI doesn't have salesman. Resorts have salesman. In Tina's case, brokers who sell multiple resorts sold her parents.
Tina, I received your email and put some calls in to get resolved. I'll correspond back with you Monday morning.
Cordially, BJ Cooke
Brandon J C.
brandonj19 wrote:I have been to a Perkin's once in 4 years. Stupid ARDA got one confused warning of one stupid and confused presentation taker and then put up a buyer beware thing on their website like hillbillies. Cooke
Yeah right .... on another note why do you keep referring to your detractors as hillbillies like that's some kind of curse .... I live in the mountains and I love being a hillbilly. Childish name calling makes you look even more like an illiterate than you've already proven to be.
"Thou protesteth too much" .... I imagine scammers hate the internet .... before it there was no way to research scammers and people were left with the lies told by the timeshare industry (all forms of the industry).
R P.
Last edited by jayjay on Jul 25, 2012 10:45 AM
Jayjay,
You imbecile, A client buys a deed from a resort broker that doesn't work for PRL. When you purchase a car and buy an extended warranty do you buy the warranty from a car salesman or a warranty guy? Let me help you because I'm sure you will need it, you buy it from the car people. The car companies choose to use that service. Resorts sell our product as an add-on with the deeds that they are selling. We employ no salesman. You think you are picking what I say apart but really you are just looking stupider and stupider with every post. I am embarrassed for you.
BJ Cooke
Brandon J C.
Anyone that gets involved with BJ Cooke and his scam machine deserves what they get after reading these posts. Scammers get nasty whe they get exposed. I will continue to post the truth everytime he posts his lies. Jayjay and I have no financial motive to advise people to avoid being ripped off. BJ Cooke makes his living selling snake oil. Next he'll probably give all his victims a free winning Nigerian lottery ticket with each purchase.
Don P.
Last edited by donp196 on Jul 25, 2012 05:44 PM
brandonj19 wrote:Jayjay,You imbecile, A client buys a deed from a resort broker that doesn't work for PRL. When you purchase a car and buy an extended warranty do you buy the warranty from a car salesman or a warranty guy? Let me help you because I'm sure you will need it, you buy it from the car people. The car companies choose to use that service. Resorts sell our product as an add-on with the deeds that they are selling. We employ no salesman. You think you are picking what I say apart but really you are just looking stupider and stupider with every post. I am embarrassed for you.
BJ Cooke
Actually BJ, a respected company leader would not come to internet forums and call people childish names. All you're doing is showing what kind of person you really are to all the search engines when PRL is researched. Evidently you have too much time on your hands to be refuting everything I post here = means your business isn't going very well. I believe tina, not you. If you're in any way involved with Sunset Harbor then you would see to it that tina's problem is resolved one way or the other.
R P.
Last edited by jayjay on Jul 26, 2012 06:24 AM
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