Resorts Management Services Wilmington- Delaware

Received a call from these folks, same type of sales pitch, checked out their business license look like it was issued 8/1/2010. Anyone heard of them? Could not find anything on them yet.

marilynk67 wrote:

Received a call from these folks, same type of sales pitch, checked out their business license look like it was issued 8/1/2010. Anyone heard of them? Could not find anything on them yet.

Would you (...or anyone else) REALLY seriously consider doing business with a brand new, completely unknown entity, one based in (and probably recently moved to) corporation-friendly Delaware, based there likley to escape the new laws and legal scrutiny of the state of Florida? Most of these types of parasites have historically been based in Florida, but I full expect many of them to be fleeing Florida and showing up in other states instead, in order to avoid the scrutiny and jurisdiction of the Florida Attorney General's office.

My advice is run away from RMS --- as fast and as far as you can...

ken1193 wrote:

marilynk67 wrote:

Received a call from these folks, same type of sales pitch, checked out their business license look like it was issued 8/1/2010. Anyone heard of them? Could not find anything on them yet.

If these new parasites have been in existence for only about a month now, I think it's highly unlikely (...at best) that anyone has ever yet heard of them. Actually, that's probably a GOOD thing.

Would you (...or anyone else) REALLY seriously consider doing business with a brand new, completely unknown entity, one based in (and probably recently moved to) corporation-friendly Delaware, based there likley to escape the new laws and legal scrutiny of the state of Florida? Most of these types of parasites have historically been based in Florida, but I full expect many of them to be fleeing Florida and showing up in other states instead, in order to avoid the scrutiny and jurisdiction of the Florida Attorney General's office.

My advice is run away from RMS --- as fast and as far as you can...

These people called me out of the blue and told me that they had an interested buyer in their office at the time of the call, someone that they had flown in for a sales promotion at their resort....that they were currently out at the pool while the call was being made. I told the guy that I would like $35,900 for my timeshare. He said he would make a presentation on my timeshare to the couple and get back to me; he said that he makes his money off the loan end. When he called back, he said they were offering $34,00 for my Kauai property. When questioned, he said there would be a $2500 fee to my VISA for the legal paperwork. I said no, and he called back later with an offer for $36,000. He called back again and said the loan had been approved with 20% down and that the couple was "pumped and excited" about the purchase. I balked and did research before giving out my VISA number. It seemed highly unlikely to me that anybody was at the pool in Wilmington, Delaware in November.... Two supervisors called me the next day, and neither one actually admitted to having a buyer. They are only selling advertising. This is a scam. Don't fall for it.

susanw493 wrote:

These people called me out of the blue and told me that they had an interested buyer in their office at the time of the call, someone that they had flown in for a sales promotion at their resort....that they were currently out at the pool while the call was being made. I told the guy that I would like $35,900 for my timeshare. He said he would make a presentation on my timeshare to the couple and get back to me; he said that he makes his money off the loan end. When he called back, he said they were offering $34,00 for my Kauai property. When questioned, he said there would be a $2500 fee to my VISA for the legal paperwork. I said no, and he called back later with an offer for $36,000. He called back again and said the loan had been approved with 20% down and that the couple was "pumped and excited" about the purchase. I balked and did research before giving out my VISA number. It seemed highly unlikely to me that anybody was at the pool in Wilmington, Delaware in November.... Two supervisors called me the next day, and neither one actually admitted to having a buyer. They are only selling advertising. This is a scam. Don't fall for it.

The above is their modus operandi .... they tell you they have a buyer when none exists ..... they are scammers, period.

If you did happen to give them your VISA number then call the number on the back of the card and dispute the charge ASAP.

marilynk67 wrote:

Received a call from these folks, same type of sales pitch, checked out their business license look like it was issued 8/1/2010. Anyone heard of them? Could not find anything on them yet.

I gave them $1750 for a supposed sale of one of my properties and did not hear from them again. The money went to a company named Martinez Management QPS in Orlando. I cannot find that this company even exists. My e-mails to Resorts Mgmt. get rejected and returned. Resorts Mgmt does have a website but my property is not even listed.

The license number this company uses is registered to the address of a company they claim to have shut down. It is a different address than the one listed on their site. Also, it is the address of another company in AZ. And who says that 56 degrees isn't pool weather? I love hypothermia after lunch. BTW, state of DE department of revenue clerk pretty much **** himself laughing when I called in for information on this company after they called me. When I asked how long they had license all he would say was it is current. When I asked who it was issued to he scoffed and quipped back "Why? Who do you think is the owner?" Great job protecting your citizens.

stillintheb wrote:

The license number this company uses is registered to the address of a company they claim to have shut down. It is a different address than the one listed on their site. Also, it is the address of another company in AZ. And who says that 56 degrees isn't pool weather? I love hypothermia after lunch. BTW, state of DE department of revenue clerk pretty much **** himself laughing when I called in for information on this company after they called me. When I asked how long they had license all he would say was it is current. When I asked who it was issued to he scoffed and quipped back "Why? Who do you think is the owner?" Great job protecting your citizens.

That's how they operate ..... when the pressure gets too much they close shop and start another operation in a different location. I would file a complaint with the Attorney General of Deleware, not the Department of Revenue.

Likewise I got the same pitch. I ended up here looking for information, because it does not make sense to me that they would need money up front if they have a qualified buyer ready to go. I got a similar call from a similar organization, say, one month ago. They said they were sending me a purchase and sale agreement, but it turned out to be a listing agreement. Resorts Management Services said they couldn't send out paperwork until I paid first. That, of course, makes no sense. Thanks to this web site, I am going to ignore any further calls from this organization! Thank you all!!

I filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission about them.

I got a call today from RMS saying they had an approved buyer for my timeshare property. The buyer had been approved for the amount of $17000.00 and had made a down payment of 30% or ($5100.00) Now if for ANY reason these lovely people would back out of this deal half of this $5100.00 would automatically go to me. They also had already paid their half of the closing fees which were a total of $3997.00 so my half would be $1999.00. When I asked why were there any closing fees because I had already paid for a timeshare company (?????? yeah right ) to take care of selling this for me in its entirity. He stated the closing fee was for the property the timeshare sit on. Since you couldn't place a for sale sign on the door the fees paid for registration of sales for city county and state of property and title transfer. He said the timeshare company I had already paid just listed it online and then this family came to them instead of calling the other company to take care of the sale and I would be reimbursed by my old timeshare company of all the money I paid them!!! I told him I would let him know something when my husband came home tonight to buy me some time to find out about these guys. I feel like the other timeshare company already riped me off enough!!! Once shame on them TWICE shame on ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can I effectively make a complaint against them if they are fraudulant??????? Please anyone..... Thanks in advance!! :)

No no no no no. Do not fall for that! Report them to the Federal Trade Commission Fraud Complaint site.

beverlys151 wrote:

I got a call today from RMS saying they had an approved buyer for my timeshare property. The buyer had been approved for the amount of $17000.00 and had made a down payment of 30% or ($5100.00) Now if for ANY reason these lovely people would back out of this deal half of this $5100.00 would automatically go to me. They also had already paid their half of the closing fees which were a total of $3997.00 so my half would be $1999.00. When I asked why were there any closing fees because I had already paid for a timeshare company (?????? yeah right ) to take care of selling this for me in its entirity. He stated the closing fee was for the property the timeshare sit on. Since you couldn't place a for sale sign on the door the fees paid for registration of sales for city county and state of property and title transfer. He said the timeshare company I had already paid just listed it online and then this family came to them instead of calling the other company to take care of the sale and I would be reimbursed by my old timeshare company of all the money I paid them!!! I told him I would let him know something when my husband came home tonight to buy me some time to find out about these guys. I feel like the other timeshare company already riped me off enough!!! Once shame on them TWICE shame on ME!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can I effectively make a complaint against them if they are fraudulant??????? Please anyone..... Thanks in advance!! :)

Tell them you'll pay your part at closing ..... see how fast they hang up on you.

The fact that they are fraudulant is the main reason you should report them to all consumer advocacy agencies including the Attorney General in the state the scammers are located.

ken1193 wrote:

marilynk67 wrote:

Received a call from these folks, same type of sales pitch, checked out their business license look like it was issued 8/1/2010. Anyone heard of them? Could not find anything on them yet.

If these new parasites have been in existence for only about a month now, I think it's highly unlikely (...at best) that anyone has ever yet heard of them. Actually, that's probably a GOOD thing.

Would you (...or anyone else) REALLY seriously consider doing business with a brand new, completely unknown entity, one based in (and probably recently moved to) corporation-friendly Delaware, based there likley to escape the new laws and legal scrutiny of the state of Florida? Most of these types of parasites have historically been based in Florida, but I full expect many of them to be fleeing Florida and showing up in other states instead, in order to avoid the scrutiny and jurisdiction of the Florida Attorney General's office.

My advice is run away from RMS --- as fast and as far as you can...

Scammer!...Hang up when the call.

good!

I am not sure of the name since I receive a number of phone calls each week. The last one indicated that my 3 bedroom in Branson would sell for $42,000 and he wanted $3,000 up front, I suggested that I am not greedy, I would take $20,000 and he can have the other $22,000 instead of the $3,000, never heard from him again .

roberts1192 wrote:

I suggested that I am not greedy, I would take $20,000 and he can have the other $22,000 instead of the $3,000, never heard from him again .

I'm not rendering a judgement, just pointing out that you have now officially made it onto someone's "sucker list" by virtue of your having "paid up" at least once already. Those "sucker lists" seem to get well circulated among assorted scammers somehow. You have now been identified as a potential "mark" and you'll likely be pestered by other parasites also looking for some of your money. Some will claim to help you get your money back (which they can't) and they too are just another flavor of scammer.

The short version is that ANY entity seeking upfront fees is a scammer who does NOT have your best interests at heart. Avoid them ALL just as you would a highly infectious disease! Don't give ANY of them another penny!

The only "good" part about this timeshare advocacy int. is that the $1,995 was charged on a commerce bank credit card, headquarters, st. louis, Mo. Six months later, Commerce Bank dispute indicates that "i signed a contract" it does not makes a difference of the gross negligence or the fraud involved by Sean Austin of TAI, Jack Schreiber, COO, David Kemper, Pres, & CEO, and Ann Bronson, all of Commerece BAnk, CA, in Saint Louis refuse to inform one of their big business, commercial clients, to return the $1,995 to Commerce bank. Instead is is easier to inform the card client that has been with them since, 1970 to pay up., have been locating stock holders of Commerce Bank toi show up at the next stockholders meeting to bring this subject up. I know, good luck, rs. .

Good morning Ladies and Gentlemen. It seems from the last post that many people do not understand what happens when a credit card charge is disputed. Hence forth, I shall educate you before you put yourself into a financial nightmare. When you dispute a charge on your card, you are saying to your bank that said charge was fraudulent. Your bank/credit card company then charges the company for that amount, charges them a fee, and TEMPORARILY returns those funds to you. Most people believe that this is the end of the process, but it is not. The company that charged you is now given the opportunity to defend the charge. In most cases all they have to do is present proof that you authorized the charge and that they performed, or were attempting to perform, the services you agreed to. Quite frankly, this means providing a contract, receipt for goods/services, and/or documents showing progress towards promised service. In the case of timeshare resale companies, this often means providing your contract, the location your property is listed, or status of process to sell with supporting documents. Once these documents are produced, and quite often it only takes your signature/copy of voice authorization allowing them to charge you, the money is quickly removed from your account regardless of remaining funds/available credit limit and returned to the company. There is also a flag added to your credit report. That flag states that you claimed a valid charge was fraudulent, in essence committing credit fraud yourself. You are also left with any charges incurred, as well as the possibility that your card may be canceled. The company you signed the contract with is also released from your contract, based on violation of the internal arbitration clauses included in most of their contracts. You are not able to file another dispute on their charge, and they do not have to return your fees. Fact is, unless you are certain that you can prove that you have been defrauded and a company has truly done none of what they say they would, your best bet is to work with them on an acceptable termination of your contract. Now, If a company's numbers become disconnected or they get shut down, by all means, dispute that charge. I hope this helps you all avoid the possible drama a dispute can cause if you do not have your ducks in a row.